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Topic: It is time for a Referendum on the EU
Posted by: David Giles
Date/Time: 20/10/11 19:09:00

When the British people lasted voted in a referendum on Britain's relationship with the European Economic Community (EEC), it was 1975 and the issue was whether or not Britain should join an economic community composed of independent sovereign states.

That was over 35 years ago.

Since then, many millions of people have been  born and many millions of people have joined the electorate but have never had a chance to cast a vote in a referendum on Britain's relationship with the EEC, its successor, the European Community or its current manifestation, the European Union.

Since 1975, successive British Governments - both Labour and Conservative- have signed many treaties amongst them the Treaties of Maastricht and Lisbon - transferring powers from Britain, the British and Scottish Parliaments and the British people to European institutions, most notably to the unelected and unaccountable European Commission.

Unlike the governments of other EU member states such as France, Denmark and Ireland, the British Government has never sought a mandate for these massive constitutional, legal, social, economic or political changes from the British people. Instead, successive British Governments - both Labour and Conservative- have signed treaties purely and simply using the parliamentray majority for whatever Goverrnment is in power whenever the British Government was asked to sign the relevant treaty.

From time to time all political parties - Labour, Conservative and even the Lib Dems - have promised referendums on Europe to the British people. However, shortly after they are elected they forget those promises that helped them get elected and come up with excuses as why not a referendum should not be held.

The present Government - Conservative led but dependent on the strongly Euro Unionist Lib Dems - is once again denying the British people a referendum on Europe.

Such a referendum is particulary necessary now in view of the possibly terminal crisis in the eurozone and the move towards a single monetary, fiscal and economic European Government being advocated by the President of the European Commission and other powerful unelected, unrepresentative and undemocratic people.

Whether or not one is in favour of Britain's current relationship with the EU, in favour of the closer and greater federalist union being promoted by powerful forces outside and insider Britain, in favoir of British withdrawal from the EU or in favour of a simple renegotiation of the treaties and a repatration of powers ceded to to EU by past Governments, it is time to demand a referendum on Europe now.

We can all demand a referendum by writing to our MP, Mary Macleod - mary.macleod.mp@parliament.uk or by signing the People's Pledge on line at  http://www.peoplespledge.org/

The People's Pledge has been signed by both Labour and Conservative MP's, including former Labour ministers.


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It is time for a Referendum on the EU20/10/11 19:09:00 David Giles
   Re Referendum on repatriation of Mr Giles?20/10/11 19:57:00 John Connelly
      Re:Re Referendum on repatriation of Mr Giles?20/10/11 20:03:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re Referendum on repatriation of Mr Giles?20/10/11 20:32:00 John Connelly
            Re:Re:Re:Re Referendum on repatriation of Mr Giles?20/10/11 20:39:00 Keith Iddon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Referendum on repatriation of Mr Giles?20/10/11 21:32:00 Oliver Gibb
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Referendum on repatriation of Mr Giles?20/10/11 21:48:00 Keith Iddon
                     This issue is too important to waste time debating with the likes off John Connelly21/10/11 00:29:00 David Giles
                        Why are our rulers so frightened of democracy?21/10/11 00:46:00 David Giles
                           Re:Why are our rulers so frightened of democracy?21/10/11 00:56:00 Keith Iddon
                              Re:Re:Why are our rulers so frightened of democracy?21/10/11 09:14:00 Colin Jordan
                                 Re:Re:Re:Why are our rulers so frightened of democracy?21/10/11 09:38:00 Richard Greenhough
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Why are our rulers so frightened of democracy?21/10/11 19:26:00 David Giles
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why are our rulers so frightened of democracy?22/10/11 19:37:00 Stephen Thornton
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why are our rulers so frightened of democracy?22/10/11 19:45:00 Keith Iddon
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why are our rulers so frightened of democracy?22/10/11 20:32:00 Stephen Thornton
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why are our rulers so frightened of democracy?22/10/11 20:32:00 Stephen Thornton
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why are our rulers so frightened of democracy?22/10/11 21:08:00 Keith Iddon
   Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU21/10/11 10:01:00 Roger Talbot
      Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU21/10/11 12:06:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
         Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU21/10/11 19:10:00 David Giles
            Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU21/10/11 19:30:00 C Wynne
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU21/10/11 19:38:00 Keith Iddon
                  Over 100,000 people have signed petition calling for Referendum22/10/11 18:33:00 David Giles
                     Re:Over 100,000 people have signed petition calling for Referendum23/10/11 10:37:00 David Giles
                        Re:Re:Over 100,000 people have signed petition calling for Referendum23/10/11 13:48:00 Phil Andrews
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU22/10/11 22:34:00 Iain Muir
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU23/10/11 00:13:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU23/10/11 00:20:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU23/10/11 00:22:00 Guy Lambert
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU23/10/11 01:47:00 David Giles
   Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU23/10/11 14:22:00 V Killick
      Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU23/10/11 17:58:00 David Giles
         Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU23/10/11 18:07:00 Guy Lambert
            Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 14:04:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 14:26:00 Guy Lambert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 18:01:00 David Giles
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 18:16:00 Phil Andrews
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 20:11:00 Guy Lambert
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 20:19:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 20:47:00 Guy Lambert
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 21:03:00 Keith Iddon
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 21:09:00 Roger Talbot
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 21:42:00 Phil Andrews
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 22:44:00 David Giles
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU24/10/11 22:45:00 David Giles
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It is time for a Referendum on the EU25/10/11 00:28:00 Phil Andrews
                                 What is the point of a referendum?24/10/11 21:32:00 Marek Wakar
                                    Re:What is the point of a referendum?24/10/11 21:50:00 Keith Iddon
                                       Re:Re:What is the point of a referendum?24/10/11 21:55:00 Guy Lambert
                                          You are known by the company you keep24/10/11 22:11:00 Stephen Thornton
                                             Re:You are known by the company you keep24/10/11 22:29:00 Peter John
                                          Re:Re:Re:What is the point of a referendum?24/10/11 22:17:00 Keith Iddon
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the point of a referendum?24/10/11 22:38:00 Guy Lambert
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the point of a referendum?24/10/11 22:56:00 Keith Iddon
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What is the point of a referendum?24/10/11 23:36:00 Guy Lambert
                                       Re:Re:What is the point of a referendum?24/10/11 22:17:00 Marek Wakar
                                          Huge rebellion against the 3 line party whips24/10/11 23:01:00 David Giles
                                             Re:Huge rebellion against the 3 line party whips24/10/11 23:39:00 Guy Lambert
                                                Re:Re:Huge rebellion against the 3 line party whips27/10/11 17:59:00 David Giles
                                                   Macho displays of euroscepticism28/10/11 22:28:00 Stephen Thornton
                                                      The move towards Eurorealism29/10/11 00:31:00 David Giles

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