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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit
Posted by: Paul Corcoran
Date/Time: 17/03/17 15:31:00

Elizabeth, the costs of the referendum aren't significant given the issues involved.

An independent Scotland would start with a very weak financial position but as we learnt last year people will vote for something that isn't necessarily in their economic self-interest.

The argument for doing so is that the Scottish economy will be screwed anyway if we move towards a WTO trading environment with low corporate tax rates. It will be very difficult for the country to attract investment outside the single market and they will have lost their cost advantage over England who will slash tax rates also.

The fiscal deficit they will start with will be about 10% of GDP but they do have some advantages. If England is out of the single market international businesses will be looking for an English language speaking area to relocate to. They also have a relatively young population and low life-expectancy has the benefit of reducing the pension burden.

They will be looking at what has been achieved in the Republic of Ireland which now has the highest GDP per capita in the EU outside Luxembourg (admittedly their GDP maybe overstated by the accounting practices of Irish based multinationals).

The UK government has a big problem here because if they try and scare the Scottish people with the economic consequences of Jockxit it will undermine the reassurances that they are giving over Ireland and Brexit at the moment. For instance they can't say there will be a hard border between England and Scotland but won't be one between the north and south of Ireland.

Secession will be complex but much much less difficult than leaving the EU as there will be only two countries involved. Also it is highly likely that the solution recently found with Irish nationals i.e. they are deemed 'not foreign' will be used for the Scots and English. In other words there still will be freedom of movement within the British Isles.

The Scots can't really wait and see how Brexit turns out because if they do this they will see a large amount of disinvestment from companies who want to stay in the single market. It would takes years to rebuild the damage from this so if they are going to leave the UK they have to do it before Brexit.


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Countries can't vote for exit16/03/17 22:28:00 Alan Clark
   Re:Countries can't vote for exit16/03/17 22:31:00 Ken Munn
      Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit16/03/17 23:33:00 Ian Fillingham
         Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 09:34:00 Vanessa Smith
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 09:49:00 Paul Pryce
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:02:00 Nick Jenkins
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:04:00 Penelope Crocker
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:10:00 Jayne Thorburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:11:00 Julian Pavey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:15:00 Paul Pryce
   Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:26:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:40:00 Alan Clark
      Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:48:00 Francis Rowe
         Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 11:19:00 Jayne Thorburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 11:31:00 Francis Rowe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 11:40:00 Alan Clark
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 12:34:00 Penelope Crocker
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:05:00 Craig McDowell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:08:00 Penelope Crocker
         Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 11:21:00 John Connelly
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:26:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:22:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:09:00 Francis Rowe
   Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 12:07:00 Craig McDowell
      Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 12:35:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 12:58:00 Craig McDowell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:16:00 Elizabeth Ross
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:31:00 Paul Corcoran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:29:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:41:00 Jayne Thorburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:13:00 Alan Clark
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:22:00 Jayne Thorburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:32:00 Alan Clark
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:41:00 Paul Green
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 16:05:00 Penelope Crocker
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 17:13:00 Ian Fillingham
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:48:00 Jayne Thorburn
                              Does Scotland have to rejoin the EU?17/03/17 16:10:00 Paul Pryce
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 17:13:00 Alan Clark
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:37:00 Craig McDowell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:39:00 John Connelly
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 16:01:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                 Tell our enemies they can take our lives...17/03/17 16:15:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...17/03/17 17:40:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...18/03/17 11:52:00 Paul Corcoran
                                          Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...19/03/17 07:40:00 Anita Blake
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...19/03/17 09:40:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...19/03/17 10:55:00 Arnold Saxton
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...19/03/17 12:44:00 T P Howell
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...19/03/17 13:13:00 T P Howell
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 10:40:00 Alan Clark
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 11:07:00 Claire Moran
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 11:39:00 Ian Fillingham
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 12:07:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 12:35:00 Claire Moran
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 12:58:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 13:14:00 Claire Moran
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 14:31:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 13:20:00 Craig McDowell
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 14:36:00 Adrian Irving
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 19:32:00 Alan Clark

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