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Topic: Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...
Posted by: Paul Corcoran
Date/Time: 18/03/17 11:52:00

If you are going to quote Yeats in this context surely the words of the Second Coming are more appropriate

"The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold...

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity"

The miscalculation that Theresa May is making at this point is that she is seeing  the call for indyref2 as opportunistic on behalf of the SNP. However, I don't think it any government of Scotland at the moment could reasonably be expected to be a passive observer of what is going on and  the logic of a second vote would become overwhelming.

Scotland is much more dependent on manufacturing and agriculture than England and these are the two sectors that would be hammered by a move to WTO rules or any settlement that doesn't come close to a customs union. 28% of Europe's computers are made in Silicon Glen providing a huge number of jobs. The margins on this type of manufacturing are so tight that the factories would shut overnight as soon as tariffs were imposed.

Agriculture would also get a hammering particularly diary and livestock. 98% of Scotland's lamb exports go to the EU which would become subject to a 40% tariff outside the single market. Large parts of Scottish agriculture would become uneconomic unless massive subsidies were given of which there is no indication. This would mean an acceleration of the depopulation of parts of the country.

Although the importance of financial services is not what it was in Scotland it is still a big earner for them and the end of passporting will be a hammer blow to the industry.

If I was Scottish, and even if I believed in the Union, I would see independence as the better of two bad options. As the reality of the situation becomes more apparent more people are likely to vote Leave if a vote is allowed or riot if it is not.

'The blood-dimmed tide is loosed'


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Countries can't vote for exit16/03/17 22:28:00 Alan Clark
   Re:Countries can't vote for exit16/03/17 22:31:00 Ken Munn
      Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit16/03/17 23:33:00 Ian Fillingham
         Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 09:34:00 Vanessa Smith
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 09:49:00 Paul Pryce
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:02:00 Nick Jenkins
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:04:00 Penelope Crocker
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:10:00 Jayne Thorburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:11:00 Julian Pavey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:15:00 Paul Pryce
   Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:26:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:40:00 Alan Clark
      Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 10:48:00 Francis Rowe
         Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 11:19:00 Jayne Thorburn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 11:31:00 Francis Rowe
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 11:40:00 Alan Clark
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 12:34:00 Penelope Crocker
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:05:00 Craig McDowell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:08:00 Penelope Crocker
         Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 11:21:00 John Connelly
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:26:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:22:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:09:00 Francis Rowe
   Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 12:07:00 Craig McDowell
      Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 12:35:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 12:58:00 Craig McDowell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:16:00 Elizabeth Ross
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:31:00 Paul Corcoran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:29:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 13:41:00 Jayne Thorburn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:13:00 Alan Clark
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:22:00 Jayne Thorburn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:32:00 Alan Clark
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:41:00 Paul Green
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 16:05:00 Penelope Crocker
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 17:13:00 Ian Fillingham
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:48:00 Jayne Thorburn
                              Does Scotland have to rejoin the EU?17/03/17 16:10:00 Paul Pryce
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 17:13:00 Alan Clark
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:37:00 Craig McDowell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 15:39:00 John Connelly
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Countries can't vote for exit17/03/17 16:01:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                 Tell our enemies they can take our lives...17/03/17 16:15:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...17/03/17 17:40:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...18/03/17 11:52:00 Paul Corcoran
                                          Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...19/03/17 07:40:00 Anita Blake
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...19/03/17 09:40:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...19/03/17 10:55:00 Arnold Saxton
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...19/03/17 12:44:00 T P Howell
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...19/03/17 13:13:00 T P Howell
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 10:40:00 Alan Clark
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 11:07:00 Claire Moran
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 11:39:00 Ian Fillingham
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 12:07:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 12:35:00 Claire Moran
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 12:58:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 13:14:00 Claire Moran
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 14:31:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 13:20:00 Craig McDowell
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 14:36:00 Adrian Irving
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Tell our enemies they can take our lives...20/03/17 19:32:00 Alan Clark

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