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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit
Posted by: Ed Saper
Date/Time: 27/07/21 17:28:00

"Whatever its flaws Jo Biddolph's report helped us get to this point"

That's right, but we're not talking about "flaws" but a survey designed to get a particular result by two "members" of OneChiswick, but presented as unimpeachably professional and independent. 

Devonshire Road was a tipping point - quite a small change to access (cars could still drive in and out after all), but when combined with lots of other small changes led to quite a big result.

The balance of the roadway was shifted from being "cars first" to "people first" and people came - from all over. 

For many of the people celebrating the removal of the planters, this isn't about Devonshire Road at all.

This is about "Fishers Lane next definitely", C9 and the ULEZ - using this "victory" to reverse all the other changes that have shifted the balance away from car dominance. 

And that's the big debate - those on the progressive side see over use of cars as an issue - the air pollution, the congestion, the impact on health, the toxic environment inside schools, the deaths and injuries to pedestrians and cyclists - issues that impact all of us regardless of wealth.

Ultimately, London will be a cleaner, safer city where more people will walk or cycle and we all drive a bit less in less polluting cars.

But to get there we need to overcome the objections of those who frustrate any and all progress as they have a vested interest in the status quo. 


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Devonshire Road Speed Limit26/07/21 23:08:00 Edward Seaton
   Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 00:29:00 Richard Jennings
   Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 06:16:00 Adrian Irving
      Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 07:54:00 Adrian Irving
   Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 07:29:00 David Lesniak
      Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 08:03:00 Maggie Dodge
   Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit. Well done Ed - really 👏27/07/21 08:38:00 Loraine Pemberton
      Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit. Well done Ed - really 👏27/07/21 08:56:00 Mark Edwards
      Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit. Well done Ed - really 👏27/07/21 09:04:00 Loraine Pemberton
   Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 09:17:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 10:58:00 Ed Saper
         Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 11:11:00 Loraine Pemberton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 12:58:00 Ed Saper
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit30/07/21 07:56:00 James Dow
         Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 14:07:00 Joanna Biddolph
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 15:27:00 Ed Saper
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 16:02:00 Robert Fish
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 16:17:00 Andrew Jones
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 16:22:00 Carl Wynne
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 16:40:00 Ed Saper
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 16:44:00 Francis Rowe
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 17:28:00 Ed Saper
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 18:01:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 18:34:00 Bruce Hammal
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac27/07/21 20:38:00 Russell Pearson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac27/07/21 21:17:00 Carl Wynne
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac27/07/21 21:47:00 Kieran Fox
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac27/07/21 22:47:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac28/07/21 00:30:00 Ed Saper
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac28/07/21 08:04:00 Tony Smart
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac28/07/21 16:02:00 Kieran Fox
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac28/07/21 16:42:00 Paul Campbell
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac28/07/21 17:15:00 Paul Campbell
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac28/07/21 17:49:00 Ed Saper
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac28/07/21 19:46:00 Kieran Fox
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Bric-à-brac29/07/21 20:19:00 Russell Pearson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 22:36:00 Stewart Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 23:05:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit27/07/21 23:55:00 Kieran Fox
   Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit28/07/21 09:05:00 Jeremy Parkinson
      Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit29/07/21 08:36:00 Francis Rowe
         Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit29/07/21 12:37:00 Peter Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit29/07/21 12:55:00 Edward Seaton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit29/07/21 13:02:00 Peter Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit29/07/21 13:08:00 Helen Whitman
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit29/07/21 13:13:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit29/07/21 13:53:00 Peter Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Speed Limit29/07/21 14:07:00 Edward Seaton
                           Devonshire Road Two Way Cycling29/07/21 14:09:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Devonshire Road Two Way Cycling29/07/21 20:03:00 Mark Evans
                              Re:Devonshire Road Two Way Cycling30/07/21 07:17:00 David Lesniak
                                 Re:Re:Devonshire Road Two Way Cycling30/07/21 12:53:00 Ed Saper
                                    Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Two Way Cycling30/07/21 13:24:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Two Way Cycling31/07/21 12:42:00 David Lesniak
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Two Way Cycling31/07/21 21:06:00 Ed Saper
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Two Way Cycling31/07/21 21:13:00 Simon Temple
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Two Way Cycling31/07/21 21:54:00 Ed Saper
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Devonshire Road Two Way Cycling31/07/21 21:56:00 Simon Temple

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