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Topic: Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise
Posted by: Guy Lambert
Date/Time: 26/03/12 20:36:00

"I remember reading that true nature of capitalism has been eroded by fudging social elements in it. These (fudged capitalism) have never worked, at least in USA and this country."

Works pretty well in Germany, where capitalism is a lot more 'fudged' than the UK or the US.

I don't know what exactly has caused our manufacturing decline but features that contribute are:
- Our unique obsession with home ownership which squeezes any available capital into the house price spiral
- Our overblown financial services industry which fritters too many of our best brains creating complex investment products with 'no social value' which end up causing tears for everybody except the people who created and sold them. And doesn't give a hoot about investing in smelly manufacturing when fat fees can be earned by flogging off our manufacturers to predators, often foreign.
I get the impression that the reason Bombardier lost the Thameslink train order was mainly because they were unable to borrow at the favourable rates Siemens could.
- Our habit of slagging ourselves off and slagging off our own products (the Italians made sure they continued buying cruddy Fiat rustbuckets in the 70s and insisting they were the best in the world whilst our consumers insisted BL cars were the worst in the world and went and bought Datsuns and cruddy Renaults - I speak with authority as I worked for Renault at the time!)

After all that, we are still a major manufacturing nation, about the 6th biggest in the world, so despite much needing to be done we shouldn't be so damn negative.


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No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise25/03/12 21:27:00 Richard Atterwill
   Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise25/03/12 22:04:00 Pete Mayes
      Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise25/03/12 22:29:00 Susan Kelly
         Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 21:57:00 Shaun Joynson
   Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise25/03/12 22:46:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise25/03/12 23:00:00 Richard Atterwill
         Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise25/03/12 23:12:00 Keith Iddon
            Re:Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 07:41:00 Richard Atterwill
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 10:39:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise27/03/12 14:15:00 Vanessa Smith
         Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 10:01:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 08:23:00 Penny Keeley
         Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 11:35:00 Theresa Watt
            Re:Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 22:15:00 Pete Mayes
         Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 11:46:00 Theresa Watt
         Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 13:01:00 Richard Atterwill
            Re:Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 14:29:00 George Knox
   Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 15:41:00 Edward Przepiora
      Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 20:36:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 20:57:00 Richard Atterwill
            Re:Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 21:40:00 George Knox
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 22:02:00 Edward Przepiora
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 23:15:00 Guy Lambert
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise26/03/12 23:21:00 Pete Mayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise27/03/12 09:58:00 Edward Przepiora
                  European innovation in the last 50 years?26/03/12 23:41:00 Thomas Barry
            Re:Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise27/03/12 00:29:00 Keith Iddon
   Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise27/03/12 12:52:00 Richard Atterwill
      Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise27/03/12 15:19:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
         Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise27/03/12 16:36:00 Edward Przepiora
         Re:Re:Re:No longer Great Britain manufacturing wise27/03/12 23:09:00 Guy Lambert

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