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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?
Posted by: Joe Conneely
Date/Time: 21/06/11 15:20:00

This discussion and the practical comments made does seem to be the national debate that should have been had over pensions and the growing problems of funding for the last 15 years odd as the situation got worse? Sadly Labour's handling of that message plus the current coalition communications around its proposed changes never seem to get to focusing on the practicalities in raising up that national understanding. The credit crunch and the knock on impact now being seen on various civil service pensions will only exacerbate the lack of honest debate is my fear.

At the same time the reality is we are all on average living longer and with one in three of the UK workforce being over 50 years of age before the end of the decade, the model of retirement and then just stopping work 100% seems kaput?

I suspect the developing issue is as more of the UK population approach official retirement age (whatever that finally ends up at), many will prefer not to work as hard but would like to work less and for longer in supplementing their pensions and savings. Plus quite frankly keeping fit physically and mentally given the concerns over growing mental deterioration levels in an aging population will also be a growing issue. Many charities like Alzheimers Disease Society have been trying to raise awareness on this aspect but I have not noticed much of this thinking informing government and party debates.

Finally, on the very first posting, a quick observation that Scottish Widows have a clear personal interest in pushing higher savings levels plus not a great record from my own experience in delivering great investment results! The "scare figures" often used in these examples such as the £24K in this case, never seem to take account of the fact that on the assumption you enter retirement debt free, then as earlier postings have made clear your expenditure does drop and you manage your outgoings accordingly. The subsequent lower survey figures quoted in later postings seem to evidence this trend.


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How Much Do You Need to Retire On?20/06/11 18:45:00 Claire Moran
   Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?20/06/11 20:04:00 Susan Kelly
      Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?20/06/11 20:37:00 Sara Nathan
         Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?20/06/11 22:24:00 Jonathan Bingham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?20/06/11 22:30:00 Sara Nathan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 07:21:00 Susan Kelly
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 08:18:00 Bernadette Paul
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 08:39:00 John de St Croix
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 09:50:00 Susan Kelly
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 10:12:00 Bernadette Paul
                           How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 11:03:00 George Knox
                              Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 11:43:00 James Howarth
                                 Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 12:43:00 Guy Lambert
                                    Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 12:57:00 Claire Moran
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 13:25:00 Bernadette Paul
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 13:39:00 Claire Moran
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 14:49:00 Bernadette Paul
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 15:41:00 Claire Moran
                                                   Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 22:00:00 Joe Conneely
                                                      Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?22/06/11 11:09:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                         Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?22/06/11 11:17:00 Susan Kelly
                                                         Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?22/06/11 18:30:00 Bernadette Paul
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?22/06/11 21:55:00 Claire Moran
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?21/06/11 15:20:00 Joe Conneely
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?22/06/11 11:04:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?22/06/11 11:58:00 Joe Conneely
                                                Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?22/06/11 11:15:00 Philippa Bond
                                                   Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?22/06/11 15:53:00 Ceref Devin
                                                      Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?22/06/11 16:10:00 Joe Conneely
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?23/06/11 12:59:00 Alan Clark
                                                            Re: "Beam Me Up Scotty"23/06/11 14:46:00 Philippa Bond
                                 Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?22/06/11 23:01:00 Lynne Bruce
   Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?22/06/11 17:41:00 Neil Muller
      Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?23/06/11 09:19:00 Vanessa Smith
         "Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 09:44:00 Mark Perry
            Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 09:56:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 10:09:00 Neil Muller
               Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 10:11:00 John de St Croix
               Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 10:16:00 Susan Kelly
                  Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 10:30:00 Claire Moran
                     Re: Retirement Costs23/06/11 12:33:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 13:33:00 Susan Kelly
               Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 12:49:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 13:58:00 Vanessa Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 18:46:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 19:26:00 Susan Kelly
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 19:37:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 20:11:00 Susan Kelly
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)23/06/11 20:16:00 Claire Moran
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)24/06/11 12:10:00 Susan Kelly
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)24/06/11 13:08:00 Claire Moran
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)24/06/11 14:37:00 Susan Kelly
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"Lat of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)24/06/11 14:44:00 Claire Moran
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"Last of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)24/06/11 16:49:00 Joe Conneely
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"Last of the Summer Wine for Pensioners" - from today's Times :)24/06/11 17:53:00 Claire Moran
         Re:Re:Re:How Much Do You Need to Retire On?24/06/11 17:22:00 Joe Conneely

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