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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever
Posted by: Stewart Dean
Date/Time: 15/03/08 17:10:00

David,

The US is a right wing country, that's not a secret. It's lack of 'socialist' policies have had a very bad effect on the country. Compare it to central to left countries, such as those you see in Northern Europe, and you'll see what I mean.

A lot of conservative thinking only makes sense in the short term and in does lead to bigger differences between rich and poor, the educated and under educated and the healthy and those in need of care.

I know you view the world socialism as some kind of nasty word, much as it is the US, but it's about creating a stable socierty - one where you don't get the have nots praying on the haves and vica versa. Being pro socierty does not mean you have to be a 'red' or a member of a marxist or communist organisation - we all know those systems did not work for very obvious reason.

The UK as a fairly good form of social liberal democracy that means we will weather the forth coming financial storm. And that is in part down to health insurance and social care, things the US needs to start putting in place to prevent those who do not have from falling through the gaps and costing the nation a fortune. These people do not disappear but put a strain on the rest of society in the form of cost to business through badly educated staff to loss of business to crime. If only a few have money there will be less business so it makes financial sense to redistribute wealth to a level where people have a choice.

I always here the word 'choice' associated with right wing thinking when what I see is the choice to spend more on more things, and less choice on those who can't afford that.

So instead of saying 'British Socialist policies would make the problems in the USA worse' how about qualifying that with some kind of joined up thinking? How about some hypothesis behind your declarations?


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Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever13/03/08 14:55:00 David Giles
   Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever13/03/08 14:59:00 Ken Munn
   Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever13/03/08 15:02:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever13/03/08 15:26:00 Will Watson
         Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever15/03/08 21:51:00 Stewart Dean
   Straw poll on David's posting13/03/08 16:56:00 Guy Lambert
      Re:Straw poll on David's posting13/03/08 17:01:00 Tina Gallacher
         Re:Re:Straw poll on David's posting13/03/08 17:08:00 Martin Hime
            Re:Re:Re:Straw poll on David's posting14/03/08 19:04:00 David Giles
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Straw poll on David's posting15/03/08 16:56:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Straw poll on David's posting13/03/08 17:24:00 Louise Cole
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      Re:Re:Real ale13/03/08 17:52:00 Richard Greenhough
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         Re:Re:Re:Real ale13/03/08 20:03:00 Fraser Pearce
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Real ale14/03/08 19:10:00 David Giles
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Real ale15/03/08 20:22:00 Guy Lambert
   Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever13/03/08 20:08:00 Ben Ffoulkes-Jones
      Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever13/03/08 23:48:00 Andy Rooney
         Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever14/03/08 19:15:00 David Giles
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever14/03/08 21:36:00 Jonathan Bingham
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever15/03/08 17:10:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever15/03/08 22:21:00 Ed Yelland
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 09:22:00 Colin Jordan
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 20:23:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 10:11:00 Peter Poulton
      Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 14:53:00 Colin Jordan
         Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 14:58:00 Peter Poulton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 16:45:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 17:38:00 Martin Hime
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 18:11:00 Guy Lambert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 18:49:00 Colin Jordan
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 18:57:00 Martin Hime
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever17/03/08 08:28:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 19:10:00 Peter Poulton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 20:18:00 Martin Hime
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever16/03/08 21:29:00 Martin Hime
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever17/03/08 07:39:00 Peter Poulton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever17/03/08 10:41:00 Colin Jordan
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever17/03/08 12:18:00 Peter Poulton
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever18/03/08 12:39:00 David Giles
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alistair Darling's Budget is One of the Worst Budgets Ever17/03/08 12:19:00 Peter Poulton
                  Re:What did the Tories ever do for us ? 17/03/08 11:24:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:What did the Tories ever do for us ? 17/03/08 11:29:00 Will Watson
                     Re:Re:What did the Tories ever do for us ? 17/03/08 11:57:00 Stewart Dean
                        Re:Re:Re:What did the Tories ever do for us ? 17/03/08 12:43:00 David Giles
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:What did the Tories ever do for us ? 17/03/08 14:26:00 Martin Hime
                              Re:What did the Tories ever do for us ? 17/03/08 14:28:00 Tina Gallacher
                                 Re:Re:What did the Tories ever do for us ? 17/03/08 14:44:00 Richard Greenhough
                                    Re:What did the Tories ever do for us ? 17/03/08 15:14:00 Tina Gallacher
                                       Re:Re:What did the Tories ever do for us ? 17/03/08 16:15:00 David Giles
                                          Re:What did the Tories ever do for us ? 17/03/08 16:35:00 Tina Gallacher
                                             Re:Re:What did the Tories ever do for us ? 17/03/08 17:57:00 David Giles
                                       Re:There Is No Alternative (TINA)17/03/08 17:18:00 Richard Greenhough
                                          Re:There Is No Alternative (TINA)18/03/08 11:15:00 Tina Gallacher
                                             The present price of gold is $1023 an ounce but who sold it at $275 an ounce ?18/03/08 12:49:00 David Giles
                                                Re:The present price of gold is $1023 an ounce but who sold it at $275 an ounce ?18/03/08 13:54:00 Stephen Pett
                                                Re:The present price of gold is $1023 an ounce but who sold it at $275 an ounce ?18/03/08 14:00:00 Jo Meaneaux
                                                   Re:Re:The present price of gold is $1023 an ounce but who sold it at $275 an ounce ?18/03/08 14:00:00 Jo Meaneaux
                                                      Re:Re:Re:The present price of gold is $1023 an ounce but who sold it at $275 an ounce ?18/03/08 14:02:00 Stephen Pett
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:The present price of gold is $1023 an ounce but who sold it at $275 an ounce ?18/03/08 15:26:00 David Giles
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The present price of gold is $1023 an ounce but who sold it at $275 an ounce ?18/03/08 17:36:00 Stephen Pett
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The present price of gold is $1023 an ounce but who sold it at $275 an ounce ?18/03/08 20:28:00 David Giles
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The present price of gold is $1023 an ounce but who sold it at $275 an ounce ?19/03/08 09:25:00 Jo Meaneaux
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The present price of gold is $1023 an ounce but who sold it at $275 an ounce ?19/03/08 20:09:00 David Giles

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