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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!
Posted by: Jeremy Parkinson
Date/Time: 02/01/25 11:12:00

Perhaps those upset about the knighthood for Sir Sadiq would be less so if they took a more detailed look at the numbers.

While those claiming that London has become a crime-ridden hellhole during his three terms as Mayor clearly don't live in London, there is no denying that knife crime has risen significantly. Depending on the base year you use, you can get a number between 20-50%

This is obviously not good but you need to remember that the Met is primarily funded by the Home Office and there has been a rise in knife crime nationally as police numbers overall have been reduced.

The Met has some unique problems in that although the last government tried to keep its funding growing in real terms, it did not match the real term growth allowing for population so there has effectively been a quite significant cut in the police per person ratio in London. That is not even allowing for the recruitment shortfall which is far more acute in London than anywhere else.

In these circumstances it would not be surprising if London had seen the biggest increase in knife crime across the nation but the rise is at the lower end or in the middle (depending on which figures you use) compared with the rest of the country.

At the same time gun crime has fallen to historic lows in London and is now, for the first time, below other urban areas in the country.

As mentioned, the Mayor is not the main funder of policing in London but he has attempted to top up Home Office grants with money raised through the precept. Many of the same people criticising him for the rise in knife crime are also slamming him for tax increases but I've yet to see a credible explanation of how you can significantly reduce offences without providing the Met with adequate funding.

The Mayor has also supported a wide range of initiatives across London to reduce youth crime with a particular focus on knives. Nobody should believe these will fix the problem but there are many examples of individual success stories.

Looking at the picture more broadly, Sadiq Khan has presided over a rise in knife crime which is much less than might have been expected given national trends and the funding he has been given. There seems no valid argument for opposing his knighthood on the grounds of increased knife crime. Andy Street, who most would agree deserved his honour, saw a much bigger increase in offences involving possession of a weapon, than the national average.


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Arise Sir Khan!31/12/24 16:16:00 Dick Greenleigh
   Re:Arise Sir Khan!31/12/24 16:34:00 Keith Iddon
   Re:Arise Sir Khan!31/12/24 16:48:00 David Burke
      Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!31/12/24 16:50:00 David Burke
         Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!31/12/24 16:52:00 Michael Brown
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!31/12/24 17:04:00 David Burke
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!31/12/24 17:17:00 Mr Denis.I. Fox
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!31/12/24 19:29:00 Georgina Flint
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!31/12/24 20:44:00 N V Brooks
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!31/12/24 20:59:00 peter king
                     Reply31/12/24 23:10:00 John Hall
                        Re:Reply31/12/24 23:12:00 David Burke
                        Re:Reply31/12/24 23:59:00 N V Brooks
                  actually it's 'Sir Sadiq' !!01/01/25 17:23:00 Davey Harris
                     Re:actually it's 'Sir Sadiq' !!01/01/25 19:25:00 David Burke
                        Re:Re:actually it's 'Sir Sadiq' !!02/01/25 16:18:00 Davey Harris
   Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 10:12:00 Emma Elizabeth
      Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 17:59:00 Robert Fish
         Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 19:31:00 Julian Pavey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 19:44:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 19:52:00 Robert Fish
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 21:19:00 N V Brooks
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!06/01/25 01:23:00 V Killick
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 20:17:00 Robert Fish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 20:22:00 Julian Pavey
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 20:30:00 Robert Fish
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 21:00:00 Michael Brown
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 21:04:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 21:24:00 N V Brooks
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!01/01/25 21:35:00 Simon Hayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!02/01/25 00:26:00 Keith Iddon
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!02/01/25 08:50:00 Michael Brown
      Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!02/01/25 10:17:00 Mark Frost
         Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 11:12:00 Jeremy Parkinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 13:44:00 Julian Pavey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 15:33:00 N V Brooks
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 15:41:00 Julian Pavey
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 17:06:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 17:32:00 Julian Pavey
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 17:41:00 Keith Iddon
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 18:08:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 18:21:00 N V Brooks
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 22:26:00 peter king
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 18:58:00 Mark Frost
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 20:03:00 Andrew Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 20:16:00 N V Brooks
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 20:52:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 21:32:00 N V Brooks
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!02/01/25 21:38:00 Andrew Jones
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!03/01/25 00:42:00 Keith Iddon
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!03/01/25 08:02:00 Mark Frost
                                    Housing starts03/01/25 08:41:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                       Re:Housing starts03/01/25 09:39:00 N V Brooks
                                          Re:Re:Housing starts03/01/25 10:16:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Housing starts03/01/25 11:53:00 N V Brooks
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Housing starts04/01/25 10:34:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                       Re:Housing starts03/01/25 10:50:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Housing starts03/01/25 10:58:00 David Burke
                                          Re:Re:Housing starts04/01/25 10:24:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!03/01/25 09:41:00 N V Brooks
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!03/01/25 10:06:00 Mark Frost
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Sadiq!03/01/25 10:11:00 N V Brooks
                                             appalling TFL service New Years Eve03/01/25 15:24:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                                                Re:appalling TFL service New Years Eve04/01/25 10:49:00 Peter Evans
                                                   Daily Express poll05/01/25 16:09:00 Alastair Banton
                                                      Re:Daily Express poll05/01/25 21:44:00 peter king
                                                         Re:Re:Daily Express poll06/01/25 07:12:00 Philippa Bond
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Daily Express poll06/01/25 14:36:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                                                         Re:Re:Daily Express poll08/01/25 14:39:00 Philippa Bond
                                                         Re:Re:Daily Express poll08/01/25 16:26:00 Andrew Jones
   Re:Arise Sir Khan!07/01/25 15:43:00 Diane Brown
       KHAN - age !07/01/25 15:45:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
         Re: KHAN - age !07/01/25 17:14:00 Courtney Gilbert
      Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!07/01/25 17:10:00 Courtney Gilbert
      Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!07/01/25 20:49:00 Denis I. Fox
         Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!07/01/25 21:39:00 peter king
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!07/01/25 22:02:00 Brian Green
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!07/01/25 22:17:00 peter king
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!07/01/25 22:18:00 Courtney Gilbert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!08/01/25 14:26:00 Jeremy Parkinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!08/01/25 14:29:00 Vanessa Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!08/01/25 14:31:00 N V Brooks
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!08/01/25 22:41:00 peter king
                        Reply20/01/25 18:16:00 Andrew OSullivan
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Arise Sir Khan!08/01/25 14:45:00 Philippa Bond
                        COUNCIL TAX AND THE MAYOR09/01/25 16:13:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                           Re:COUNCIL TAX AND THE MAYOR09/01/25 16:24:00 Courtney Gilbert
                           Re:COUNCIL TAX AND THE MAYOR09/01/25 16:51:00 Andrew Jones
                              Re:Re:COUNCIL TAX AND THE MAYOR10/01/25 09:04:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                 Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 18/01/25 09:03:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid?  -  which one?18/01/25 13:12:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid?  -  The Mayor of London! 18/01/25 14:48:00 Steve Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid?  -  The Mayor of London! 20/01/25 18:43:00 Philippa Bond
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 18/01/25 14:44:00 Andrew Jones
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 18/01/25 15:38:00 Philippa Bond
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 18/01/25 16:39:00 Steve Taylor
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 18/01/25 17:12:00 peter king
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 18/01/25 18:06:00 Philippa Bond
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 18/01/25 20:01:00 peter king
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 18/01/25 20:35:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 18/01/25 21:10:00 Andrew Jones
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 19/01/25 16:53:00 Philippa Bond
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 19/01/25 18:19:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 19/01/25 19:35:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 19/01/25 21:28:00 peter king
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 20/01/25 18:40:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 20/01/25 18:53:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 20/01/25 20:15:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 21/01/25 09:25:00 Mark Evans
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 21/01/25 10:18:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                       Reply22/01/25 15:33:00 Mark Evans
                                                                                          Re:Reply23/01/25 14:15:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 21/01/25 12:25:00 Steve Taylor
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Devious or plain stupid? 23/01/25 16:55:00 Brian Coyle

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