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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F1
Posted by: Huw Burford-Taylor
Date/Time: 22/12/15 14:21:00

There's nothing more subjective than comparing drivers from different eras, and comparisons are odious, but here goes:

Hamilton came through the ranks as well, his father worked 3 jobs to get him through the karting formulae, yes he was sponsored by McLaren from 13 onwards, but had there been no talent that sponsorship would have ended very quickly.

In Hamilton's rookie year in F1 he came within a hair of beating his team mate, two time F1 champ, and generally reckoned to be the most complete driver on the grid, Fernando Alonso, to the title, and indeed equalled him on points, putting his nose out of joint so much that Alonso scurried back to his former team, Renault.

In Hmailton's time in F1 he's had machinery that was the class of the field 4 years, 2007, 2008, 2014 & 2015 of those 4 times he's won 3 and come second once (his rookie year) 2009 was the Brawn one off champion ship and 2010-13 were the all conquering red bull years.

This whole argument about "stick xxxx in 'insert name of current dominant F1 car here' and they'd win" has been shown up as a fallacy time and time again, but to give some of the more recent examples: Coulthard in the '98 '99 McLaren, couldn't get close to Hakkinen, Barichello in the '09 Brawn couldn't get close to Button, Webber in the Red Bull 2010-13 couldn't get close to Vettel. The winner of the F1 WDC is invariably a combination of the best driver and the best machine. Fangio was famous for moving from team-to-team depending on who had the best machinery, it's virtually impossible to win a WDC without it. Finally Hamilton's never driven into someone to win a WDC, not something you can say about Senna.

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BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 09:07:00 Julian Pavey
   Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 10:00:00 Adam Beamish
      Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 10:28:00 Julian Pavey
   Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 11:43:00 Andy Pease
      Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 11:57:00 Adam Beamish
         Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 12:02:00 Adam Beamish
            Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 12:08:00 Andy Pease
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 12:37:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 12:47:00 Adam Beamish
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 13:05:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 13:24:00 Adam Beamish
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 13:36:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 13:45:00 Adam Beamish
                           Re:Speedway22/12/15 16:29:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Speedway22/12/15 21:43:00 Joe Conneely
                                 Re:Re:Re:Speedway22/12/15 23:49:00 Julian Pavey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Speedway23/12/15 07:22:00 Andy Pease
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Speedway23/12/15 08:53:00 Julian Pavey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 13:11:00 Andy Pease
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 13:18:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 13:39:00 Adam Beamish
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 14:21:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
      Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 12:18:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 12:46:00 Christopher Bell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 13:56:00 Julian Pavey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 14:20:00 Julian Pavey
         Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 16:42:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:BBC DITCH  F122/12/15 16:51:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
   Re:BBC Scheduling clash22/12/15 15:57:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:BBC Scheduling clash22/12/15 16:02:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
      Re:Re:BBC Scheduling clash22/12/15 16:09:00 David Fox
         Re:Re:Re:BBC Scheduling clash22/12/15 16:14:00 Huw Burford-Taylor

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