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Topic: Re:Re:Re:More support than objections
Posted by: Tom Pike
Date/Time: 11/08/23 06:22:00

Hi Anette,

Thanks for providing some clarification on the six-month figures. In fact the fourth column was cut off in your submission so the information you are now giving was not available from that column header. 

Your previous column headers included the weeks averaged, confirming you had used 14 non-market Sundays in 11 months of data, (although you had then erroneously averaged by 11) so it was quite a reasonable assumption that you had been consistent here. You previously, but incorrectly, suggested that you made most sales on non-market days, so why not include all non-market days in your latest analysis?

And the larger question remains why are you now  basing your analysis on just 24 weeks of data rather than the 47 weeks in the original dataset, and on what basis did you chose which weeks to include?

Selecting a smaller sample when you have a larger sample available is only going to make it more likely you’ll get unrepresentative results, as well as raise questions as to potential bias in your selection. And of course it won’t capture the seasonal changes that I’m sure have an effect on your sales.

For example, on the basis of your original 47-week figures you suggested that your lowest sales when there was a Cheese Market were down to it selling food.  That’s a plausible suggestion, but your new figures for just 24 weeks show that your sales were higher on Cheese market Sundays than for the Flower or Antiques market.  I don’t think that really proves your initial suggestion was wrong, just that a smaller sample is less reliable.

Similarly, your original 47 weeks of sales, when correctly analyses, showed that non-market Sundays gave you the worst sales. A smaller sample might well show the opposite, especially if there was a biased selection, but it doesn’t undermine the analysis of the larger, more reliable, dataset.

And of course if sales were higher on your selected non-market Sundays, they would have to be lower, much lower in this case, for the other eight weeks you didn’t select (if you had been consistent and included any fifth Sundays the variation is much less). What makes those eight weeks not chosen any less valid that the six you decided to choose?

In the end a larger dataset will always be preferable to a smaller one, giving more reliable results, unless you have some good reasons to exclude some of the data.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 09:11:00 Rae Lewis
   Re:Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 09:15:00 Rae Lewis
      Re:Re:Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 09:22:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 11:16:00 Peter Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 11:44:00 Rae Lewis
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 11:45:00 Jeremy Parkinson
   More support than objections08/08/23 11:45:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:More support than objections08/08/23 12:43:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:More support than objections10/08/23 17:18:00 Anette Megyaszai
            Re:Re:Re:More support than objections11/08/23 06:22:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections11/08/23 06:52:00 Tom Pike
      Re:More support than objections08/08/23 12:48:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 13:03:00 Jeremy Parkinson
            Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 13:57:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 14:09:00 Justin Stephenson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 14:18:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 18:26:00 Justin Stephenson
                        Reply09/08/23 20:41:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 16:24:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 14:18:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 15:44:00 Jim Lawes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 08:34:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 10:21:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 12:00:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 12:21:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 12:42:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections10/08/23 07:45:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections10/08/23 07:59:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections10/08/23 08:10:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections10/08/23 17:06:00 Paul Campbell
            Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 18:51:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:More objections than support 10/08/23 07:37:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More objections than support 10/08/23 08:08:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More objections than support 10/08/23 08:39:00 Adrian Irving
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More objections than support 10/08/23 09:45:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More objections than support 10/08/23 10:39:00 Adrian Irving
                              Re:Lectures by local enthusiasts10/08/23 14:06:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Lectures by local enthusiasts10/08/23 15:02:00 Adrian Irving
                                 Re:Re:Lectures by local enthusiasts10/08/23 16:48:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 07:49:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                       Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 08:07:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 08:15:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 08:19:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 09:45:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 10:20:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)29/08/23 07:31:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)29/08/23 08:16:00 Michael Robinson
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)30/08/23 08:10:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)30/08/23 08:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                  Pathetic30/08/23 08:57:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                     Re:Pathetic?30/08/23 09:06:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                     Re:Pathetic30/08/23 09:17:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                        Re:Re:Pathetic30/08/23 09:32:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Pathetic30/08/23 09:41:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Pathetic30/08/23 09:48:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pathetic30/08/23 09:57:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pathetic30/08/23 14:14:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)30/08/23 14:52:00 N V Brooks
                                                                  Reply31/08/23 08:25:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                       Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 08:21:00 Adrian Irving
                                          Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 10:07:00 Janice Evans

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