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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections
Posted by: Tom Pike
Date/Time: 09/08/23 10:21:00

Jeremy, the proprietor has already shown the data for 11 months of sales and although the spreadsheet quite clearly showed there were 14 weeks of non-market sales, they simply divided by 11 instead of 14 to get the non-market average.  That's hardly "a complicated exposition on statistics", just dividing by the wrong number. Their data is clear -  their sales and covers are up on market days.

They've now down-selected to just six months of data to try to re-establish their point. The strange thing is that while their total sales on market Sundays remain similar, as they were before, now sales on non-market Sundays are very significantly higher.

Of course if you select the best non-market months in a year, you can tip the scales in their favour, but it doesn't prove much. After all, the unselected months must have had much lower sales to compensate - in fact sales in those months would be nearly half in this case!

"You are happy to accept without question evidence from the businesses who say takings are up so you should do the same for those who have had a different experience."

Quite the opposite! For example, I've looked at data from business owners who had rather different views on the parking on TGT. One was certain the removal hurt their business, the other was agnostic. In fact both their year-on-year volume and sales changes agreed very well and showed no effect from the removal. But the business owner who was certain remained so, even though the evidence quite clearly showed otherwise.

It does seem odd that a proprietor can be convinced that their sales are being hurt when the actual sales numbers indicate the opposite, but clearly it does happen.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 09:11:00 Rae Lewis
   Re:Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 09:15:00 Rae Lewis
      Re:Re:Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 09:22:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 11:16:00 Peter Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 11:44:00 Rae Lewis
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Perils of proposed Street Food Market08/08/23 11:45:00 Jeremy Parkinson
   More support than objections08/08/23 11:45:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:More support than objections08/08/23 12:43:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:More support than objections10/08/23 17:18:00 Anette Megyaszai
            Re:Re:Re:More support than objections11/08/23 06:22:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections11/08/23 06:52:00 Tom Pike
      Re:More support than objections08/08/23 12:48:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 13:03:00 Jeremy Parkinson
            Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 13:57:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 14:09:00 Justin Stephenson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 14:18:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 18:26:00 Justin Stephenson
                        Reply09/08/23 20:41:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 16:24:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 14:18:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 15:44:00 Jim Lawes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 08:34:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 10:21:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 12:00:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 12:21:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections09/08/23 12:42:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections10/08/23 07:45:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections10/08/23 07:59:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections10/08/23 08:10:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More support than objections10/08/23 17:06:00 Paul Campbell
            Re:Re:Re:More support than objections08/08/23 18:51:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:More objections than support 10/08/23 07:37:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More objections than support 10/08/23 08:08:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More objections than support 10/08/23 08:39:00 Adrian Irving
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More objections than support 10/08/23 09:45:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:More objections than support 10/08/23 10:39:00 Adrian Irving
                              Re:Lectures by local enthusiasts10/08/23 14:06:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Lectures by local enthusiasts10/08/23 15:02:00 Adrian Irving
                                 Re:Re:Lectures by local enthusiasts10/08/23 16:48:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 07:49:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                       Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 08:07:00 Michael Robinson
                                          Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 08:15:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 08:19:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 09:45:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 10:20:00 Michael Robinson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)29/08/23 07:31:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)29/08/23 08:16:00 Michael Robinson
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)30/08/23 08:10:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)30/08/23 08:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                  Pathetic30/08/23 08:57:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                     Re:Pathetic?30/08/23 09:06:00 Alastair Banton
                                                                     Re:Pathetic30/08/23 09:17:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                        Re:Re:Pathetic30/08/23 09:32:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Pathetic30/08/23 09:41:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Pathetic30/08/23 09:48:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pathetic30/08/23 09:57:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pathetic30/08/23 14:14:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)30/08/23 14:52:00 N V Brooks
                                                                  Reply31/08/23 08:25:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                       Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 08:21:00 Adrian Irving
                                          Re:Re:Street Food Market approved (for a bit)25/08/23 10:07:00 Janice Evans

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