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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon
Posted by: Mark Evans
Date/Time: 24/02/20 18:42:00

The idea of traffic evaporation is a logical fallacy. It is basically saying that if you make traffic bad enough then people will give up driving.

It may actually be the case that over the last ten years that increased congestion has helped the overall amount of journey miles to stay static by encouraging some people to consider alternatives but what evaporation there is hasn't been sufficient to reduce journey times. These have steadily increased over the last ten years in London. So the same number of miles is being travelled in a year but the journeys are taking longer so you have more cars on the road at any given time.

The basic flaw in the theory of evaporation is that, if it were actually to work, then as traffic improved more people would switch back to motor vehicles, so its very success would undermine it. It's a nonsense theory that can't actually work in practice.

The reality is that whatever TfL say about the number of vehicle trips that could be cycled the actual potential for switching is a fraction of what could be achieved by better public transport. The balance that needs to be struck with cycling is that does need to be encouraged but if it is allocated road space that so reduces capacity for motor vehicles that the increased journey times outweigh the reduction in journeys that have been switched to bikes there has been no net benefit overall.


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Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 10:28:00 Edward Seaton
   Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 10:35:00 Felicity Caborn
      Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 11:09:00 Edward Seaton
         Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 11:30:00 Felicity Caborn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 11:45:00 Edward Seaton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 12:33:00 Loraine Pemberton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 12:48:00 Edward Seaton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 13:13:00 Will Watson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 23:02:00 John Stroud
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 13:14:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 13:50:00 Matthew Swain
   Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 12:48:00 Steve Taylor
      Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 12:58:00 Edward Seaton
         Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 15:23:00 Mark Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 16:24:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 18:42:00 Mark Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 22:28:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 19:51:00 Tony Smart
         Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 16:45:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 18:59:00 Janice Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 19:01:00 Edward Seaton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon24/02/20 23:36:00 Guy Lambert
                  Reply25/02/20 07:39:00 Andrew OSullivan
                     Re:Reply25/02/20 08:43:00 James Petri
                     Re:Reply25/02/20 09:01:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Reply25/02/20 10:40:00 Guy Lambert
                     Re:Reply26/02/20 09:05:00 Alex Brown
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon25/02/20 07:12:00 David Lesniak
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon25/02/20 08:45:00 James Petri
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon26/02/20 08:47:00 Mark Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cars, Cherry Trees, Chiswick and Carbon26/02/20 12:04:00 Steve Taylor
                           Cars Chiswick and Carbon28/02/20 14:31:00 Edward Seaton
                              Re:Cars Chiswick and Carbon28/02/20 16:50:00 Philippa Bond
                                 Re:Re:Cars Chiswick and Carbon28/02/20 17:31:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Cars Chiswick and Carbon29/02/20 21:59:00 James Petri
                              Re:Cars Chiswick and Carbon01/03/20 11:49:00 Sue Rowe

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