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Topic: Re:Boris Island
Posted by: Michael Daley
Date/Time: 18/01/12 14:53:00

The problem of LHR has always been short-term solutions- that how we got the airport in the wrong place and with limited future viability. The first question I would ask today is why did Blair insist on consultation on an estuary-located new airport not going ahead in 2002? We've lost a further decade. The case for a new airport in this location is very strong. Technically it's not that difficult (there are at least two recent examples); all major UK airports are privately owned already and the world is awash with liquidity needing an assured long-term real return- the airport would be financed without any trouble (as was the proposal back in 2002 killed by Blair).

There will be no job losses- relocation yes- and indeed as the new airport would operate more runways and do so 24/7 in fact there would be many additional jobs created. During construction tens of thousands of jobs would be created too.

It is true people in West London would find themselves at a modest disadvantage travel wise but no more so than East Londoners now. West London would prosper without aircraft blight not decline. Worth noting the centre of commercial gravity is going to be shifting eastwards in any event.

The big benefit, and the overwhelming reason for a new airport, is competition and keeping the UK competitive relative to the EU alternatives.  LHR is a very convenient near-monopoly. That's why it’s still there. I would have thought an airport operating 24/7 with say five runways and an unlimited number of operating airlines would offer the UK the prospect of significant competition- increasing customer choice and pushing fares down. It all adds up to a very good reason to stay in London, or to come here to do business.

HS2 is a near term diversion- and probably won’t be built in any case. A decision there is effectively with the next government, so a go ahead on the new airport could be made without significant cost implications. Of course the continental airports will be up in arms inventing every reason under the sun why London cannot reinvent LHR.  Not having a new airport here is the reason for their relative success.

Finally, think of all that land at LHR. Is that 100,000 new homes or more? How many jobs come with them being built? This is a good idea for the UK with no losers (bar BAA and a couple of airlines and a few continental businesses) and should be supported.


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Boris Island18/01/12 08:26:00 Brendan McCarthy
   Re:Boris Island18/01/12 08:32:00 Oliver Gibb
      Re:Re:Boris Island18/01/12 08:42:00 Kevin Kane
   Re:Boris Island18/01/12 08:45:00 Viv Griffith
      Re:Re:Boris Island18/01/12 09:22:00 Brendan McCarthy
   Re:Boris Island18/01/12 09:20:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Boris Island18/01/12 09:23:00 Brendan McCarthy
   Fantasy Island18/01/12 09:54:00 Will Watson
      Re:Fantasy Island18/01/12 10:55:00 Iris Hill
         Re:Re:Fantasy Island18/01/12 11:09:00 Claudia Jachtmann
         Re:Re:Fantasy Island18/01/12 11:14:00 George Knox
            Re:Re:Re:Fantasy Island18/01/12 11:33:00 Guy Lambert
      Re:Fantasy Island18/01/12 12:13:00 Tim Henderson
         Re:Re:Fantasy Island18/01/12 12:41:00 Will Watson
   Re:Boris Island18/01/12 14:53:00 Michael Daley
      Re:Re:Boris Island18/01/12 15:53:00 John de St Croix
         Re:Re:Re:Boris Island18/01/12 16:22:00 Richard Greenhough
            Boris Island18/01/12 17:48:00 Brendan McCarthy
               Re:Boris Island18/01/12 17:59:00 Tim Henderson
                  Re:Re:Boris Island18/01/12 18:08:00 Brendan McCarthy
                     Re:Re:Re:Boris Island18/01/12 20:11:00 David Giles
   Re:Boris Island18/01/12 20:09:00 Gilbert Short
      Re:Re:Boris Peninsula19/01/12 22:12:00 David Giles
         Re:Re:Re:Boris Peninsula20/01/12 08:53:00 Roger Talbot
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris Peninsula20/01/12 09:35:00 Tim Henderson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris Peninsula20/01/12 10:01:00 Paul Green
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Boris Peninsula20/01/12 10:21:00 Tim Henderson
                     Alternative LHR solution20/01/12 13:35:00 Brendan McCarthy
                        Re:Alternative LHR solution20/01/12 15:47:00 John Connelly
                           Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution20/01/12 16:24:00 Oliver Gibb
                              Northolt again25/01/12 17:03:00 Thomas Barry
                        Re:Alternative LHR solution22/01/12 10:30:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Alternative LHR solution22/01/12 12:05:00 Thomas Barry
                           Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution22/01/12 12:14:00 Brendan McCarthy
                              Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution22/01/12 16:47:00 Iain Muir
                              Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution22/01/12 20:12:00 Thomas Barry
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution22/01/12 21:56:00 Richard Jennings
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution22/01/12 22:47:00 Chris Bell
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution23/01/12 09:21:00 Thomas Barry
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution23/01/12 09:56:00 Guy Lambert
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution23/01/12 11:27:00 Chris Bell
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution23/01/12 16:58:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution23/01/12 20:08:00 Thomas Barry
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution24/01/12 12:19:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution24/01/12 14:44:00 Oliver Gibb
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution24/01/12 17:57:00 Thomas Barry
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution24/01/12 18:22:00 Tim Henderson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution24/01/12 22:07:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution25/01/12 11:13:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution25/01/12 14:28:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution25/01/12 14:51:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution25/01/12 17:18:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution25/01/12 16:51:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                     Plans?  What plans?25/01/12 20:13:00 Thomas Barry
                                                                        Re:Plans?  What plans?25/01/12 22:47:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution23/01/12 11:02:00 Tim Henderson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution23/01/12 12:06:00 Oliver Gibb
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution25/01/12 13:19:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution25/01/12 19:44:00 David Giles
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution26/01/12 15:09:00 Iain Muir
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Alternative LHR solution26/01/12 23:27:00 Chris Bell
                                                      Northolt as Heathrow satellite27/01/12 16:58:00 Tim Henderson
                                                         Re:Northolt as Heathrow satellite27/01/12 17:02:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Northolt as Heathrow satellite27/01/12 18:20:00 Tim Henderson
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Northolt as Heathrow satellite27/01/12 18:28:00 Fred Bray
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt as Heathrow satellite27/01/12 19:36:00 Tim Henderson
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt as Heathrow satellite28/01/12 00:59:00 Iain Muir
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt as Heathrow satellite28/01/12 14:30:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Northolt as Heathrow satellite28/01/12 15:20:00 Dave Robertson
                                                                              Private Eye's take on the island and other dodgy Boris deals28/01/12 19:25:00 Guy Lambert

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