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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss
Posted by: Fraser Pearce
Date/Time: 11/10/08 09:11:00

Vanessa -

When it comes to greed, how many bankers do you suppose have multi-million pound pension pots like Gordon Brown? His is bullet-proof, immune to stock market ups and downs and paid for by the good old British taxpayer - including you, me and those nasty bankers.

Gordon even has the gall to expense us for his light bulbs.

If you want greed then, why not look closer to home at the government that pissed over a trillion quid up the wall and saddled us with unprecedented debt (not to mention the social engineering or pissing on the Bill of Rights, Habeas Corpus and Cenotaph).

If you want greed, how about looking a little closer to home at the political class, you know, the ones using ideology to protect their own privilege? The folks in Westminster voted massive pay increases for themselves in recent years, have over 90 days annual leave and now outsource 80% of the lawmaking to Brussels.

You talk of “rip-off merchants who are only interested in big bucks and sod the customer”, when we have MPs being paid more than ever to do less than ever.

How’s this for radical then - how about nationalising our own Parliament, so the people we vote for actually go back to regulating, legislating and governing?

As for financial regulation, the FSA was granted authority by the EU, not the UK. This is all well and good until you consider that, in financial services at least, the UK’s more reliant on this sector than any other EU country. If ever there was an argument against a one-size-fits-all policy, this was it - about 20% of our GDP rested on that regulation!

Then again, why go to the trouble of thinking through the consequences of bad policy when it’s easier to accuse people of being xenophobes and anti-European?

So, how about nationalising the regulation and handing the power back to the Bank of England, Westminster and British government?

As for the joke about putting people up against the wall, you Bourbons really seem to have forgotten nothing and learnt nothing. How about, for once, real change to work the solution rather than a reversion to the old class hatred?

As for the next election “being in the bag”, a ‘none of the above’ party would win by a landslide. We need more 1776, not 1984:

“...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”


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Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 13:04:00 Barbara Keeley
   Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 13:20:00 Chris March
   Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 13:27:00 Dave Elmer
      Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 16:23:00 Bobby Newly
   Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 13:27:00 Stewart Dean
      Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 13:34:00 Elliot Yarrow
         Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 08:46:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 14:21:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 16:03:00 Fraser Pearce
   Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 16:18:00 Will Watson
      Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 16:57:00 Micki Hawkes
         Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 18:12:00 Michelle Weaver
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 18:30:00 Vanessa Smith
               Greed and less regulation10/10/08 21:57:00 Francis Rowe
      Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 09:00:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 10:53:00 Will Watson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 11:24:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 11:33:00 Will Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss13/10/08 09:10:00 Stewart Dean
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 16:41:00 Vanessa Smith
   Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss10/10/08 22:19:00 Peter Greenbank
      Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 00:28:00 Michael Fletcher
         Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 09:11:00 Fraser Pearce
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 11:10:00 Michelle Weaver
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 12:45:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 22:53:00 Stewart Dean
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 08:30:00 Susan Kelly
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 08:40:00 Stewart Dean
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 14:46:00 Account suspended
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 17:43:00 Martin Hime
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 17:59:00 Susan Kelly
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 22:45:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss11/10/08 23:21:00 Peter Greenbank
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 08:39:00 Colin Jordan
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 08:49:00 Stewart Dean
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 09:52:00 Lucy Chambers
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 10:04:00 Will Watson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 11:13:00 Stewart Dean
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 12:02:00 Account suspended
                                    Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 15:07:00 Susan Kelly
                                       Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 17:00:00 Michael Fletcher
                                          Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 18:54:00 Susan Kelly
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss13/10/08 09:06:00 Stewart Dean
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 17:27:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 17:35:00 Elliot Yarrow
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 17:51:00 Michael Fletcher
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss12/10/08 18:20:00 Michael Fletcher
                                  Gordon Brown should resign12/10/08 20:18:00 David Giles
                                    Re: Gordon Brown should resign13/10/08 09:03:00 Stewart Dean
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss13/10/08 08:22:00 Elliot Yarrow
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss13/10/08 09:02:00 Stewart Dean
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the financial crisis? Discuss13/10/08 09:57:00 Elliot Yarrow
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the f13/10/08 10:06:00 Stewart Dean
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the f13/10/08 10:12:00 Elliot Yarrow
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the f13/10/08 10:13:00 Fraser Pearce
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the f13/10/08 10:27:00 Fraser Pearce
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the f13/10/08 11:52:00 Andrew Flinn
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the f13/10/08 11:32:00 Will Watson
                                          Bump for SD14/10/08 14:51:00 Andrew Flinn
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the f13/10/08 10:24:00 Malcolm Peltu
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Are the general public warming to Gordon Brown in his handling of the f13/10/08 10:34:00 Fraser Pearce

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