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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera
Posted by: Michael Robinson
Date/Time: 13/03/25 12:58:00

Historically 'except for access' could be enforced if a single camera could cover the entire section of road with the restriction.

I think a single camera could enforce this type of restriction on, for example, Devonshire Rd, if it was in place there.

I understand that using timing information from two cameras to cover a longer section of road was a deliberate decision by a former head of transport in Hounslow to try something new and different and Green Dragon Lane was the first location in the country where it was tried.  So as things have turned out, being a pioneer doesn't always work and I don't think it has been used elsewhere in Hounslow or anywhere else.  As I speculated, maybe there were complexities with implementation.

The challenge with the Grove Park scheme was the high volume of traffic driving through the area between A316 and A4 and A316 to S Circular and belief cameras would be more acceptable to local residents than sticking a bollard in the road at selected locations and forcing certain journeys to be re-routed.

The reality is that drivers are on auto-pilot most of the time and don't see signage, so if there had been a change to the road layout at for example, Hartington Road, requiring drivers to slow down or stop, then there is more chance of signage actually being seen.

Using cameras to appease drivers was also the approach in LBHF where despite the area having dozens and dozens of road closures put in during the 90s and 2000s, they have used cameras extensively. 

Using cameras to appease drivers doesn't work because they will complain about any restriction to driving.

The advantage of a physical closure is that people just get used to it and within few years it is just a normal part of the road network.  There are many streets in Chiswick that are low traffic neighbourhoods before they were called low traffic neighbourhoods and residents don't even know they live in one because the road was closed 20 or 30 years ago.


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SOTG/Kew Bridge camera12/03/25 21:07:00 Jim Brown
   Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 00:02:00 Peter Evans
      Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 09:47:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 11:45:00 Peter Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 12:58:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 18:50:00 Peter Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 19:19:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 20:47:00 Peter Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 21:33:00 Peter Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 01:10:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 07:48:00 Simon Hayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 07:59:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 09:23:00 Colin Jordan
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 13:10:00 Simon Hayes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 20:47:00 Guy Lambert
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 23:01:00 Simon Hayes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 23:36:00 Guy Lambert
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera15/03/25 18:50:00 N V Brooks
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera15/03/25 19:03:00 David Burke
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera16/03/25 09:57:00 Guy Lambert
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera16/03/25 15:43:00 N V Brooks
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 06:25:00 Guy Lambert
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 10:08:00 N V Brooks
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 11:30:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 15:44:00 Guy Lambert
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 16:03:00 David Burke
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 17:16:00 N V Brooks
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 18:55:00 David Burke
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 20:15:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 21:18:00 David Burke
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera18/03/25 09:13:00 N V Brooks
                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera18/03/25 10:38:00 Peter Evans
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera18/03/25 10:56:00 N V Brooks
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 17:00:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 17:07:00 N V Brooks
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 23:01:00 Peter Evans
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera15/03/25 22:45:00 Andrew Jones
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera16/03/25 13:44:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                   Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera16/03/25 15:15:00 Jim Brown
                                                      Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera16/03/25 16:35:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                         Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 00:26:00 Peter Evans
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 06:58:00 Simon Hayes
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 08:48:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 11:27:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 12:43:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 13:02:00 Peter Evans
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 13:41:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                                           Reply26/03/25 08:40:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                              Re:Reply26/03/25 12:44:00 Peter Evans
                                                                                 Re:Re:Reply26/03/25 13:59:00 Brian Green
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/25 17:04:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                 Re:Re:Reply27/03/25 17:15:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/25 21:30:00 Peter Evans
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/25 21:32:00 Peter Evans
                                                                                       Reply01/04/25 14:56:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                          Re:Reply01/04/25 15:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                             Re:Re:Reply01/04/25 16:39:00 Peter Evans
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Reply01/04/25 18:44:00 Michael Robinson

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