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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures
Posted by: Tom Pike
Date/Time: 29/05/21 07:02:00

“We will never be dogmatically in favour of or against any cycleway or an LTN - we always assess them on their merits. For example, will they improve air quality and make all forms of traffic flow more freely, and will they make life easier for local businesses to succeed.”

Fair enough, but that is not what you have done. For example, you have repeatedly stated that you object to CW9 because TfL modelling shows it would not reduce pollution. However, that modelling assumed no change in overall traffic levels, or modal shift, and hence gave no overall change in pollution. You mistake an assumption as a prediction, and repeat this misleading claim even after it has been pointed out several times.

It is misleading claims such as this that have undermined the credibility of local Conservative transport policy for anyone who takes the environmental challenges that London faces seriously. It explains why Londoners who voted Green gave their second preference votes by a factor of more than 6:1 to Khan, not Bailey, and it would have contributed to Chiswick backing Khan over Bailey as well.

At this point you have a choice. You can continue to erode your local support by making such misleading claims justifications for your group’s transport policy. Or you can live up to your own stated commitment to treat these traffic measures on their merits, including not prejudging outcomes of trials such as in Devonshire Road. But you can’t choose to do both.

You fact that you have completely overlooked that this article makes exactly this point, and instead decided to quote the one misleading sentence in it unfortunately does not give much confidence that you will make the right choice.


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Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 11:21:00 Paul Campbell
   Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 11:46:00 Paul Scullion
      Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:04:00 Adrian Irving
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:23:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 14:46:00 Adrian Irving
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:02:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:29:00 Chris Vessey
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:43:00 Adrian Irving
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:49:00 Adrian Irving
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:54:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 19:35:00 Adrian Irving
   Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:07:00 Tom Pike
      Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:14:00 Janice Evans
      Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 14:17:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 15:15:00 David Lesniak
   Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:16:00 David Lesniak
   Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:25:00 Bruce Hammal
      Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 13:41:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 13:58:00 Russell Pearson
      Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 14:03:00 Chris Vessey
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 14:05:00 Janice Evans
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 14:06:00 Bruce Hammal
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 15:48:00 Chris Vessey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:02:00 Bruce Hammal
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:22:00 Chris Vessey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:34:00 Bruce Hammal
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:49:00 Chris Vessey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:05:00 Will Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:07:00 Bruce Hammal
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:18:00 Al Webber
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:53:00 Chris Vessey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:54:00 Bruce Hammal
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 18:31:00 Chris Vessey
                     A4 alternative28/05/21 04:54:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:A4 alternative28/05/21 06:47:00 Will Watson
                        Re:A4 alternative28/05/21 09:35:00 Chris Vessey
                           Re:Re:A4 alternative28/05/21 13:45:00 David Lesniak
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:01:00 Loraine Pemberton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 18:00:00 Chris Vessey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 20:12:00 Bernard Allen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 20:28:00 Russell Pearson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 08:59:00 Al Webber
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 09:13:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 09:25:00 Al Webber
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 09:44:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 09:40:00 Chris Vessey
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 09:56:00 Russell Pearson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 15:12:00 Janice Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 13:53:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 14:25:00 Chris Vessey
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 14:50:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 16:03:00 Chris Vessey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 16:25:00 Janice Evans
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 16:45:00 Janice Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 16:57:00 Chris Vessey
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 17:08:00 Janice Evans
                                                Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 17:15:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                   Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 18:44:00 Chris Vessey
                                                   Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 17:17:00 Janice Evans
                                                   Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 18:58:00 Chris Vessey
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 17:21:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                          Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 22:48:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 09:26:00 Chris Vessey
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 07:02:00 Tom Pike
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 08:16:00 Adrian Irving
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 08:51:00 Tom Pike
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 09:08:00 Adrian Irving
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 09:57:00 Ed Saper
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 10:16:00 Tom Pike
                                                            Response to Cllr Sam (might be TLTR for some!)29/05/21 10:58:00 Ed Saper
                                                               Re:Response to Cllr Sam (might be TLTR for some!)29/05/21 11:57:00 Paul Campbell
                                                                  Re:Re:Response to Cllr Sam (might be TLTR for some!)29/05/21 12:16:00 Ed Saper
                                                               Re:Response to Cllr Sam (might be TLTR for some!)29/05/21 14:43:00 Chris Vessey
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 12:27:00 Adrian Irving
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 15:05:00 David Lesniak
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 15:49:00 Chris Vessey
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 16:02:00 David Lesniak
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 16:21:00 Chris Vessey

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