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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures
Posted by: Cllr Sam Hearn
Date/Time: 28/05/21 17:21:00

This has been interesting thread to read. As the Transport Spokesperson for the Conservative Group of Councillors on Hounslow Council I would like to draw residents’ attention to our Cycling Policy issued in 2019. I am happy to supply anyone with a copy.

We are not anti-bike or anti-car we are for a balanced approach to London's transport ills and specifically those of this borough. We do not promise a magic solution  because nobody can but we do promise schemes that can be discussed publicly and achieve a wide measure of support.

We will never be dogmatically in favour of or against any cycleway or an LTN - we always assess them on their merits. For example, will they improve air quality and make all forms of traffic flow more freely, and will they make life easier for local businesses to succeed.

One gentleman has so little faith in his powers of persuasion or the obvious merits of the LTNs being imposed on us that he writes,

"Surely LTN's will simply be voted out by the vast majority of car owners, so no change. If what we really need is use of cars to be considerably reduced LTN's must be implemented with little or no consultation."

Does he not realise as it says in the article at the top of this thread, many cars owners are also cyclists.

This desire to force people out of their cars is really a counsel of despair and would establish the precedent for further heavy handed action by the State. In other countries the State has (for perfectly sound reasons) introduced measures to compulsorily limit population growth - do we want that?. There are those that argue if we all adopted a vegan or vegetarian diet that the world would be a better place - should the State therefore ban the sale of meat?

In the article quoted at the head of this thread that the same gentleman has clearly not read its says that  

"It is vital that communities are properly consulted when introducing safe cycling infrastructure and Low Traffic Neighbourhoods (LTNs). All too often last year, Labour councils introduced temporary cycle lanes and LTNs overnight with minimal or no consultation. There has to be decent consultation with local residents to ensure schemes are implemented in the best possible way by considering everyone’s needs."

By genuinely consulting local people you end up with better schemes and better supported schemes. The alternative approach of imposing measures produces resentment,anger and social division. 

The State does not always know best and the Local Authority does sometimes get things wrong and has to amend or reverse decisions. This is a fact of life. Get over it, and stop trying to defend poorly designed and poorly implemented schemes. 



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Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 11:21:00 Paul Campbell
   Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 11:46:00 Paul Scullion
      Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:04:00 Adrian Irving
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:23:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 14:46:00 Adrian Irving
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:02:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:29:00 Chris Vessey
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:43:00 Adrian Irving
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:49:00 Adrian Irving
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:54:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 19:35:00 Adrian Irving
   Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:07:00 Tom Pike
      Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:14:00 Janice Evans
      Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 14:17:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 15:15:00 David Lesniak
   Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:16:00 David Lesniak
   Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 12:25:00 Bruce Hammal
      Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 13:41:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 13:58:00 Russell Pearson
      Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 14:03:00 Chris Vessey
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 14:05:00 Janice Evans
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 14:06:00 Bruce Hammal
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 15:48:00 Chris Vessey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:02:00 Bruce Hammal
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:22:00 Chris Vessey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:34:00 Bruce Hammal
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:49:00 Chris Vessey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:05:00 Will Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 16:07:00 Bruce Hammal
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:18:00 Al Webber
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:53:00 Chris Vessey
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:54:00 Bruce Hammal
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 18:31:00 Chris Vessey
                     A4 alternative28/05/21 04:54:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:A4 alternative28/05/21 06:47:00 Will Watson
                        Re:A4 alternative28/05/21 09:35:00 Chris Vessey
                           Re:Re:A4 alternative28/05/21 13:45:00 David Lesniak
         Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 17:01:00 Loraine Pemberton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 18:00:00 Chris Vessey
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 20:12:00 Bernard Allen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures27/05/21 20:28:00 Russell Pearson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 08:59:00 Al Webber
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 09:13:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 09:25:00 Al Webber
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 09:44:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 09:40:00 Chris Vessey
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 09:56:00 Russell Pearson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 15:12:00 Janice Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 13:53:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 14:25:00 Chris Vessey
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 14:50:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 16:03:00 Chris Vessey
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 16:25:00 Janice Evans
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 16:45:00 Janice Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 16:57:00 Chris Vessey
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 17:08:00 Janice Evans
                                                Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 17:15:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                   Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 18:44:00 Chris Vessey
                                                   Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 17:17:00 Janice Evans
                                                   Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 18:58:00 Chris Vessey
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 17:21:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                          Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures28/05/21 22:48:00 Philippa Bond
                                             Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 09:26:00 Chris Vessey
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 07:02:00 Tom Pike
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 08:16:00 Adrian Irving
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 08:51:00 Tom Pike
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 09:08:00 Adrian Irving
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 09:57:00 Ed Saper
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 10:16:00 Tom Pike
                                                            Response to Cllr Sam (might be TLTR for some!)29/05/21 10:58:00 Ed Saper
                                                               Re:Response to Cllr Sam (might be TLTR for some!)29/05/21 11:57:00 Paul Campbell
                                                                  Re:Re:Response to Cllr Sam (might be TLTR for some!)29/05/21 12:16:00 Ed Saper
                                                               Re:Response to Cllr Sam (might be TLTR for some!)29/05/21 14:43:00 Chris Vessey
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 12:27:00 Adrian Irving
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 15:05:00 David Lesniak
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 15:49:00 Chris Vessey
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 16:02:00 David Lesniak
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conservatives need strong pro-cycling measures29/05/21 16:21:00 Chris Vessey

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