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Topic: Re:Re:Re: What planet do you live on ?
Posted by: Paul Green
Date/Time: 06/05/17 12:57:00

Richard, neither I nor others who post on here ignore the failings of teh EU. It is yourself who is blinkered and dogmatic and cannot see the positives. THe UK had the best of both worlds, access to a market of half a billion wealthy consumers and major industries, without being in the euro.

THe euro is flawed but the eurzone is recovering. WE have covered this before, Spain had a long history of chronic un- and underemployment, had a massive credit boom and a big bust. It is now recoverign strongly. Even France is seeing signs of life, but the main constraint there is a very rigid and regulaed economy that does not create jobs, not the fault of the euro. Italy and Greece are major issues, the latter ultimately a small country (whcih doesnt alter the pain people there feel) and its not clear how both these countries move forward. However, that situation does not change whether the UK is in or out of the EU. THe eurozone outgrew the UK and will probably continue over the next 2-3 years at least.

It would be wonderful if you could move beyond the straw man arguments and blinkered rhetoric. THe EU has many faults, but it is not responsible for all the problems of EUrope far from it.

In terms of the single market benefits, cars are actually a major single market success story. Yes there has been some offshoring, a factor of globaisation the world over, just look at the US. But car output in Q1 reached a 17 yer high, with nearly a third of the output exported to the EU and the average parts content imported from EUrope around 40% in every car produced. THe last 18 motnhs the main driver of export growth has been to.... Europe, offsetting the slowdown in CHina and India. GOsh...

Regadrding the THatcherite reforms, some were needed, but there was rarely a clear and coherent economic policy and 3 million unemloyed plus the decimation of large swathes of British manufacturing was a pretty high price to pay. Large parts of the country have never recovered... now the right wing TOries would like to finish the job...


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 09:28:00 Ken Munn
   Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 09:36:00 Paul Fisher
   Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 09:51:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
      It's the crassness that infuriates me04/05/17 12:46:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
   Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 09:54:00 Paul Corcoran
      Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 09:58:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 10:23:00 Paul Green
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 10:30:00 Ken Munn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 10:41:00 T P Howell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 11:08:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 12:22:00 Robert Fish
                     I also think it is worth pointing out04/05/17 12:31:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 13:22:00 Ken Munn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 15:43:00 Tony Mansell
            :Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 14:57:00 Steve Taylor
               Re::Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 17:32:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Re:Re::Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'07/05/17 18:50:00 Steve Taylor
   Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 12:43:00 Tony Wood
      Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 17:15:00 Anne England
         Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 17:26:00 Tony Wood
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 21:38:00 Brian Coyle
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'04/05/17 23:24:00 Ben Gemmingen
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 10:14:00 Alan Clark
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 10:34:00 T P Howell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 10:35:00 T P Howell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 10:42:00 Tony Mansell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 11:16:00 Davis Smithson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 11:44:00 Davis Smithson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 11:51:00 Brian Coyle
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 11:59:00 T P Howell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 12:11:00 Davis Smithson
                                    Thought experiment...05/05/17 12:26:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                       Re:Thought experiment...05/05/17 14:06:00 Alan Clark
                                          Re:Re:Thought experiment...05/05/17 14:33:00 Davis Smithson
                                             Impact of immigration on native wages ‘infinitesimally small’05/05/17 14:40:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                Re:Impact of immigration on native wages ‘infinitesimally small’05/05/17 15:01:00 Davis Smithson
                                                   "Stop it with your informed research and reasoned05/05/17 15:11:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                      Re:"Stop it with your informed research and reasoned05/05/17 15:22:00 Paul Green
                                                         Re:Re:"Stop it with your informed research and reasoned05/05/17 15:27:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Impact of immigration on native wages ‘infinitesimally small’05/05/17 15:16:00 Andy Pease
                                             Davis..05/05/17 16:42:00 Keith Iddon
                                                Re:Davis..05/05/17 16:55:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                   Re:Re:Davis..05/05/17 17:05:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Davis..05/05/17 17:09:00 Keith Iddon
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Davis..05/05/17 17:17:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Davis..05/05/17 17:29:00 Keith Iddon
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Davis..05/05/17 17:45:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                 Re:Invoking Godwin's Law.....05/05/17 18:32:00 Richard Greenhough
                                    Re:Re:Invoking Godwin's Law.....05/05/17 18:37:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Invoking Godwin's Law.....05/05/17 18:49:00 Keith Iddon
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Invoking Godwin's Law.....06/05/17 10:53:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 16:52:00 Tony Mansell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 16:56:00 Keith Iddon
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 17:25:00 Davis Smithson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 17:42:00 Keith Iddon
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 17:59:00 Davis Smithson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 18:53:00 Paul Green
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 18:59:00 Keith Iddon
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'05/05/17 19:45:00 Davis Smithson
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'07/05/17 21:07:00 Steve Taylor
   Ken Munn ! What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 02:11:00 Dennis Brogan
      Re:Ken Munn ! What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 09:44:00 Paul Green
         What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 10:19:00 Alan Clark
            Re:What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 10:38:00 Davis Smithson
               Re:Re:What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 10:58:00 Davis Smithson
                  Re:Re:Re:What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 11:04:00 Paul Fisher
                  Re:Re:Re:What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 11:17:00 Alan Clark
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 11:40:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 12:06:00 Alan Clark
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 12:16:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 12:50:00 Alan Clark
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What planet do you live on ?07/05/17 21:31:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:What planet do you live on ?07/05/17 21:20:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re: What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 11:01:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re: What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 12:57:00 Paul Green
               Re:Re:Re:Re: What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 19:34:00 Alan Clark
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: What planet do you live on ?06/05/17 20:05:00 Mike Chisholm
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: What planet do you live on ?07/05/17 21:45:00 Steve Taylor
   Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'06/05/17 20:19:00 Ken Munn
      Re:Re:Is it as simple as 'Theresa May hates foreigners?'06/05/17 20:48:00 Mike Chisholm
         May at the Home Office06/05/17 21:00:00 Ken Munn
            Re:May at the Home Office06/05/17 23:08:00 David Roberts
               Re:Re:May at the Home Office07/05/17 01:35:00 Penelope Crocker
                  Re:Re:Re:May at the Home Office07/05/17 07:07:00 Ken Munn
                  Re:Re:Re:May at the Home Office07/05/17 19:00:00 Andy Pease
               Re:Re:May at the Home Office07/05/17 21:53:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:May at the Home Office08/05/17 06:39:00 Ken Munn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:May at the Home Office08/05/17 07:51:00 Penelope Crocker
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:May at the Home Office08/05/17 08:05:00 Steve Taylor

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