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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London
Posted by: Mark Warburton
Date/Time: 21/01/22 16:52:00

Some interesting points in there, particularly pointing out the hypocrisy of the XR loons, however it does seem to infer that we have to accept an increase in price for everything.

When we have large parts of the population that already have to choose between eating properly and heating their property, that isn't viable. Adding additional costs to people who already can't afford to eat 3 times a day is not a solution.

Consumption does need to drop & I despair at the plethora of crap that people consume. I spent some time moving quite frequently and was stunned to see how many boxes moved with me and were never opened from move to move. They were summarily disposed of & I've never looked back.

I could be wrong, but consumption emissions are either the 2nd or 3rd largest section of emissions & are easy enough to push down. It will have an economic shock impact, there's little doubt about that, the question is whether it will pave the way for long-term rebounding growth. Personally, I don't think it will, not if it's done properly and given the areas for growth that the author mentions, these are all likely to be hit by taxes tackling consumption emissions. It might mean a rebalancing of the global economy to where raw materials are, but that's not much of a sell for the man on the Clapham Omnibus, regardless of how just that is.

This may be the first generation in many where a drop in living standards is seen and expected to be the norm.


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Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 08:40:00 Paul Campbell
   Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 09:22:00 Andrew Jones
      Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 09:26:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 09:53:00 peter king
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 09:55:00 Kieran Fox
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 10:54:00 peter king
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 11:06:00 Chris Blackwell
   Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 11:15:00 Mark Warburton
      Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 12:20:00 Rahman Hyatt
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 19:42:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 17:16:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 10:48:00 Mark Warburton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 17:41:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 19:15:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 09:55:00 Mark Warburton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 10:30:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 16:10:00 Mark Warburton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 12:00:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 16:38:00 Mark Warburton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 17:29:00 Paul Campbell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 07:28:00 David Lesniak
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 09:52:00 Mark Warburton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 12:42:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 14:47:00 Paul Campbell
                        Except for Katherine Dunne22/01/22 07:34:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 16:52:00 Mark Warburton
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 18:17:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 07:37:00 David Lesniak
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 08:39:00 Tom Pike
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 13:54:00 David Lesniak
   Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 13:31:00 David Lesniak
      Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 15:39:00 Bernard Allen
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 16:17:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 08:45:00 Andrew Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 13:47:00 David Lesniak
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 18:06:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 18:11:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 18:18:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 18:16:00 Andrew Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 19:35:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 06:30:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 12:05:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 13:01:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 13:54:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 16:21:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 18:20:00 Russell Pearson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 23:00:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 08:28:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 16:30:00 peter king
                              Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 07:41:00 David Lesniak
                                 Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 11:51:00 Matthew Swain
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 13:55:00 David Lesniak

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