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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London
Posted by: David Lesniak
Date/Time: 20/01/22 13:47:00

Andrew, I'd say the devil would be in the detail.

At present if we need to deliver into the congestion zone it costs £15. Do we charge £15? No. Customers would never go for it especially if they can get something delivered for £2.50 or whatever the Ocado fee is these days. In a way, delivery is a bit of a loss leader. If we take the risk locally and fail, it could cost upward of £60 is it if we pay a PCN quickly? So, again, we have effectively been cut off from serving a customer base we've served for years. Now it's a risk management equation when before it was risk-free. It is also more time consuming so not a win/win as it should be especially on the local level.

When possible we try to coordinate deliveries to customers with driving to set-up/deliver our markets and with supply runs. So the current system of a daily fee makes more sense for the bottom line for a business that is London-centric. No clue what the charge would be for a demand management scheme. But I can tell you there are days we clock 50 miles in a day and sometimes more as lately we're having to go further afield to get the supplies needed. To rely on a supplier delivery is a crap shoot at the best of times as they are unpredictable both in terms of timing and quality/quantity of goods delivered. For example, if they come late and don't have all that was ordered, we are caught short-handed. And we won't know that until they get to the door. Many of the hospitality suppliers are surprisingly old-school when it comes to technology.

And if we click over to the trades, if your plumber needs a part to fix your toilet and his normal supplier doesn't have it, is he expected to eat the additional cost for having to go around searching for it? I can assure you if they attempted to limit their costs potentially leaving you without a toilet for a night, they would never hear the end of it. So a moving target fee seems punitive to small businesses of a certain size. Perhaps tiers of small are in order?


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Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 08:40:00 Paul Campbell
   Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 09:22:00 Andrew Jones
      Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 09:26:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 09:53:00 peter king
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 09:55:00 Kieran Fox
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 10:54:00 peter king
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 11:06:00 Chris Blackwell
   Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 11:15:00 Mark Warburton
      Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 12:20:00 Rahman Hyatt
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 19:42:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 17:16:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 10:48:00 Mark Warburton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 17:41:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 19:15:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 09:55:00 Mark Warburton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 10:30:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 16:10:00 Mark Warburton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 12:00:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 16:38:00 Mark Warburton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 17:29:00 Paul Campbell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 07:28:00 David Lesniak
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 09:52:00 Mark Warburton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 12:42:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 14:47:00 Paul Campbell
                        Except for Katherine Dunne22/01/22 07:34:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 16:52:00 Mark Warburton
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 18:17:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 07:37:00 David Lesniak
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 08:39:00 Tom Pike
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 13:54:00 David Lesniak
   Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 13:31:00 David Lesniak
      Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 15:39:00 Bernard Allen
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London18/01/22 16:17:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 08:45:00 Andrew Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 13:47:00 David Lesniak
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 18:06:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 18:11:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 18:18:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 18:16:00 Andrew Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London20/01/22 19:35:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 06:30:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 12:05:00 Philippa Bond
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 13:01:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 13:54:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 16:21:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 18:20:00 Russell Pearson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London21/01/22 23:00:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 08:28:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 16:30:00 peter king
                              Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 07:41:00 David Lesniak
                                 Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 11:51:00 Matthew Swain
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Clean Air Charge for Driving in London22/01/22 13:55:00 David Lesniak

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