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Topic: Re:Re:Was it any better before?
Posted by: Andrew Jones
Date/Time: 23/11/23 13:45:00

Opposition to local transport initiatives from residents is nothing new.

Trams never ran across Kew Bridge - the second (stone) bridge, built in the 1780s, was far too narrow, and very steep on the approach from Brentford - which meant that there was an isolated length of single track of 1.53 miles, with passing loops, from the south side of the bridge, across Kew Green, then south along the Kew Road to the Orange Tree public house 51°27′51″N 0°18′06″W / 51.464228°N 0.301534°W in Richmond.

LUT made repeated attempts to cross Kew Bridge after it was rebuilt in 1903 but these continued to be resisted by the Richmond Corporation Tramways Committee.

Kew Road residents opposed two attempts in 1897 & 1898 to install a second track - which would have necessitated road widening - and any subsequent electrification using unsightly overhead wires seemed out of the question, locals favouring the underground conduit system. Kew Observatory had concerns about the introduction of electric trams. So whilst the rest of London went electric, this little branch continued to use horse-drawn cars until well into the twentieth century - the interiors had red velvet seat cushions and were described as "comfortable, if not luxurious", and ran every quarter hour (the full "end to end" journey costing 2d) - until 20 April 1912 after which it was replaced by part of a London General (LGOC) motor-bus route. Richmond's tram-shed still exists as the former Shaftesbury Centre in Kew Road just north of the A316.


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REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…22/11/23 00:04:00 John Bird
   Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…22/11/23 07:17:00 Paul Campbell
      Reply22/11/23 07:34:00 John Hall
         Re:Reply22/11/23 15:10:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…22/11/23 21:09:00 Mark Talbot
   Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…22/11/23 08:34:00 Mark Frost
      Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…22/11/23 14:12:00 David Harmes
         Why…22/11/23 19:29:00 David Harmes
            Re:Why…22/11/23 19:35:00 Maggie Dodge
               Re:Re:Questions in the House about the anti car measures 22/11/23 20:14:00 Maggie Dodge
         Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…24/11/23 19:16:00 Maggie Dodge
      Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…24/11/23 13:21:00 Charlotte Kasner
   Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…22/11/23 20:56:00 Lynda Fisher
      Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…22/11/23 23:52:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…23/11/23 08:37:00 Maggie Dodge
            Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…23/11/23 10:46:00 Mark Talbot
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…23/11/23 11:45:00 Andrew Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…23/11/23 11:51:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Was it any better before?23/11/23 13:00:00 Francis Sheehan
                     Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 13:10:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 13:45:00 Andrew Jones
                        Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 17:34:00 Francis Sheehan
                           Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 17:46:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 19:29:00 Andrew Jones
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 19:38:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 20:14:00 Andrew Jones
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 21:13:00 Paul Campbell
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 22:40:00 Philippa Bond
                     Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 15:56:00 Maggie Dodge
                        Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 18:00:00 Will Watson
                           Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 18:05:00 Paul Campbell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 19:46:00 Philippa Bond
                                 Re: Desert Island Disks23/11/23 20:00:00 Russell Pearson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 22:10:00 Maggie Dodge
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 22:12:00 Maggie Dodge
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 23:22:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 22:15:00 Maggie Dodge
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 23:39:00 Sam Hearn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?23/11/23 23:48:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?24/11/23 00:30:00 Sam Hearn
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?24/11/23 07:06:00 Tom Pike
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?24/11/23 09:31:00 Maggie Dodge
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?24/11/23 13:38:00 Tom Pike
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?24/11/23 07:17:00 Paul Campbell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?24/11/23 09:47:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?24/11/23 11:25:00 Sam Hearn
                                    Reply24/11/23 11:34:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Was it any better before?24/11/23 11:35:00 Richard Greenhough
                                    Reply24/11/23 11:52:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:The Cloud24/11/23 12:37:00 Richard Greenhough
                                          ...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 12:52:00 Robert Fish
                                             Re:...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 13:25:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                Re:Re:...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 13:43:00 Robert Fish
                                                   Re:Re:Re:...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 13:55:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 14:05:00 Robert Fish
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 14:31:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 14:33:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 14:47:00 Robert Fish
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 14:51:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 14:58:00 Robert Fish
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 15:10:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:...and so it goes on and on24/11/23 17:11:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Reply24/11/23 12:39:00 Paul Campbell
                                          Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 12:57:00 Maggie Dodge
                                             Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 13:25:00 Mark Talbot
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 13:31:00 Robert Fish
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 13:41:00 Tom Pike
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 14:33:00 Mark Talbot
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 17:16:00 Tom Pike
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 20:48:00 Mark Talbot
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 23:11:00 Tom Pike
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 14:08:00 Mark Talbot
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 14:32:00 Robert Fish
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 14:36:00 Mark Talbot
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 18:24:00 Andrew Jones
                                          Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 13:24:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Reply24/11/23 20:46:00 Maggie Dodge
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…24/11/23 13:28:00 Mark Talbot
   Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…24/11/23 21:16:00 Stephen Butler
      Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…24/11/23 21:49:00 Will Watson
         Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…24/11/23 21:51:00 David Harmes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…24/11/23 21:53:00 David Harmes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…24/11/23 21:54:00 Andrew Jones
               Traffic on Bollo Lane25/11/23 06:36:00 Francis Sheehan
                  Re:Traffic on Bollo Lane25/11/23 14:26:00 Andrew Jones
                     Re:Re:Traffic on Bollo Lane25/11/23 15:01:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…25/11/23 08:00:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…25/11/23 09:00:00 Paul Campbell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…25/11/23 09:07:00 Maggie Dodge
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…25/11/23 09:44:00 Peter Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…25/11/23 10:09:00 Peter Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…25/11/23 10:22:00 Tom Pike
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…25/11/23 12:10:00 Maggie Dodge
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…25/11/23 13:17:00 Philippa Bond
            Your ridiculous thinking  Paul Cambell…25/11/23 10:26:00 David Harmes
               Fast, slow thinking and the "hopeless"25/11/23 10:59:00 Paul Campbell
                  Yep  one big con as Maggie said above25/11/23 12:14:00 David Harmes
                     Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above25/11/23 12:23:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above25/11/23 20:41:00 Mark Talbot
                           Re:Re:Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above25/11/23 21:13:00 Paul Campbell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above25/11/23 22:32:00 Mark Talbot
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above25/11/23 23:03:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above26/11/23 08:31:00 Mark Talbot
                           Re:Re:Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above25/11/23 21:48:00 N V Brooks
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above25/11/23 23:04:00 Paul Campbell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above25/11/23 23:17:00 N V Brooks
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above25/11/23 23:25:00 Paul Campbell
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above25/11/23 23:55:00 N V Brooks
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Yep  one big con as Maggie said above26/11/23 07:07:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Fast, slow thinking and the "hopeless"25/11/23 12:17:00 Maggie Dodge
                  Re:Humpty News25/11/23 12:23:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Humpty News25/11/23 13:34:00 N V Brooks
                        Re:Re:Re:The hopeless 20%25/11/23 19:04:00 Adrian Irving
   Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…26/11/23 09:47:00 Liz West
      Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…26/11/23 10:02:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…26/11/23 11:34:00 Adrian Irving
         Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…26/11/23 11:36:00 Peter Evans
            Beautiful rat run26/11/23 13:44:00 David Harmes
         Re:Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…26/11/23 18:59:00 Maggie Dodge
   Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…26/11/23 15:29:00 Carl Johns
      Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…26/11/23 19:02:00 Maggie Dodge
   Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…26/11/23 19:48:00 Una-Jane Winfield
      Re:Re:REOPEN FISHERS LANE for heavens sakes…26/11/23 19:54:00 Una-Jane Winfield
         Reply26/11/23 20:40:00 Michael Good
            Re:Reply26/11/23 21:22:00 Mark Talbot
               Re:Re:Reply26/11/23 22:28:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Reply27/11/23 07:25:00 Mark Talbot
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/11/23 07:49:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Humpty and the 20%27/11/23 07:49:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Humpty and the 20%27/11/23 08:00:00 Mark Talbot
                        Re:Re:Re:Humpty and the 20%27/11/23 08:05:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Humpty and the 20%27/11/23 08:42:00 Maggie Dodge
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Humpty and the 20%27/11/23 09:27:00 Mark Talbot
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cracking down on cyclists 28/11/23 11:57:00 Maggie Dodge
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cracking down on cyclists 28/11/23 12:24:00 Will Watson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cracking down on cyclists 28/11/23 12:41:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cracking down on cyclists 28/11/23 20:29:00 David Harmes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cracking down on cyclists 28/11/23 21:10:00 Andrew Jones
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cracking down on cyclists 28/11/23 21:59:00 David Harmes
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cracking down on cyclists 28/11/23 23:04:00 Andrew Jones
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cracking down on cyclists 28/11/23 23:10:00 Andrew Jones
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cracking down on cyclists 29/11/23 09:04:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:cracking down on cyclists 29/11/23 11:18:00 David Harmes
                                                         An old Icelandic proverb says...29/11/23 11:19:00 Francis Sheehan

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