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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?
Posted by: David Lesniak
Date/Time: 27/07/19 16:29:00

"Cyclists use pavements because they feel unsafe on the road. Give them a safe cycle lane and they won't want to go on the pavement"

So, Ken, let's just ignore your pal Tony's comment about faster cyclists staying on the carriageway and avoiding a cycle lane. That already disproves your theory once. But just for fun, let's disprove it again. In the areas where the cycle lane is the same height as the footpath separated by what is ostensibly a flush kerb (raised about an inch is it?) cycles approaching from opposite directions on a cycle path too narrow per TfL safety guidelines would have to swerve to avoid collision. Fool me once. Hence the second time said cyclist has every reason to not want to use a poorly designed "amenity" and will end up on the footpath anyway. Why? Because the cycle lane itself made them feel unsafe. No one wants to be fooled twice. Bravo. Good campaigning. I shudder to think what the discussion will be when cyclists collide into themselves on the cycle lane which is precisely what happens elsewhere in London.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 10:19:00 Paul Corcoran
   Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 10:45:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 11:07:00 Dan Evans
         Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 13:31:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:CHR wide enough for new CS9 design? Yep with loss of another Tree27/07/19 14:33:00 Loraine Pemberton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 16:12:00 David Lesniak
      Reply27/07/19 12:24:00 Kevin Howard
         Re:Reply27/07/19 13:19:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Reply27/07/19 16:17:00 David Lesniak
      Details, details.27/07/19 16:01:00 David Lesniak
   Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 11:31:00 Tony Smart
      Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 11:42:00 Loraine Pemberton
         Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 12:22:00 Tony Smart
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 12:27:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 12:41:00 Julian Pavey
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 12:54:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Is CHR wide enough for the new CS9 design ? NO !27/07/19 12:55:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 12:55:00 Tony Smart
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 13:19:00 Loraine Pemberton
                     Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 14:22:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 15:11:00 Ken Munn
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 15:30:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 15:45:00 Ken Munn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 15:13:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 16:04:00 Janice Evans
                        Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 16:14:00 Loraine Pemberton
                           Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 16:24:00 David Millar
                              Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 16:39:00 Loraine Pemberton
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 16:29:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 16:47:00 Mike Chisholm
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 21:47:00 Tony Smart
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?27/07/19 23:47:00 Richard Bryson
                                 Reply28/07/19 07:45:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                    Re:Reply28/07/19 08:51:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Reply28/07/19 09:42:00 Tony Smart
                                       Re:Re:Reply28/07/19 10:15:00 Dan Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Reply28/07/19 10:54:00 Tony Smart
                                             Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !28/07/19 11:56:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !28/07/19 14:51:00 Dan Evans
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !28/07/19 15:18:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !28/07/19 21:44:00 Tony Smart
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !29/07/19 09:08:00 Dan Evans
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !29/07/19 09:22:00 Tony Smart
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !29/07/19 09:31:00 Dan Evans
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !29/07/19 10:20:00 Tony Smart
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !29/07/19 10:07:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !29/07/19 10:22:00 Tony Smart
                                                                  Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !29/07/19 11:05:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !29/07/19 10:36:00 David Lesniak
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !29/07/19 15:26:00 Dan Evans
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !31/07/19 13:02:00 David Lesniak
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !31/07/19 17:20:00 Dan Evans
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply. Some North side pavement IS given over to CS9 !01/08/19 17:11:00 David Lesniak
                                       Re:Re:Reply28/07/19 11:05:00 Richard Bryson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Is Chiswick High Road wide enough for the new CS9 design?31/07/19 13:25:00 Steve Taylor
   Shooting the Messenger28/07/19 09:23:00 Francis Rowe
      Re:Shooting the Messenger28/07/19 09:50:00 Steve Taylor
      Re:Shooting the Messenger28/07/19 10:09:00 Loraine Pemberton
         Reply28/07/19 10:47:00 Richard Bryson
      Cycling on pavement is “practical and uncontentious” ?28/07/19 10:50:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Cycling on pavement is “practical and uncontentious” ?28/07/19 10:56:00 Richard Bryson
         Re:Cycling on pavement is “practical and uncontentious” ?28/07/19 11:49:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Cycling on pavement is “practical and uncontentious” ?28/07/19 13:16:00 David Lesniak
               Re:Re:Re:Cycling on pavement is “practical and uncontentious” ?28/07/19 20:45:00 Mike Chisholm
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on pavement is “practical and uncontentious” ?28/07/19 21:06:00 Ken Munn
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on pavement is “practical and uncontentious” ?28/07/19 22:53:00 Richard Bryson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on pavement is “practical and uncontentious” ?28/07/19 22:59:00 Tony Smart
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on pavement is “practical and uncontentious” ?28/07/19 23:20:00 Richard Bryson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cycling on pavement is “practical and uncontentious” ?28/07/19 23:46:00 Tony Smart
                                 Re: Petition against CS9/CW9 30/07/19 13:38:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Not so wonderful 30/07/19 16:44:00 Ken Munn
                                       Re:Not so wonderful 30/07/19 18:00:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                          Re:Re:Not so wonderful - typo amendment 30/07/19 18:10:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                             Re:Re:Re:Not so wonderful - typo amendment 31/07/19 11:56:00 Tony Smart
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Not so wonderful - typo amendment 31/07/19 12:24:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Not so wonderful - typo amendment 31/07/19 12:41:00 David Lesniak
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not so wonderful - typo amendment 01/08/19 00:59:00 Tony Smart
                                                      Reply01/08/19 10:27:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not so wonderful - typo amendment 01/08/19 17:12:00 David Lesniak
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not so wonderful - typo amendment 01/08/19 23:37:00 Tony Smart
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Not so wonderful - typo amendment 02/08/19 12:58:00 David Lesniak
                                       Re:Not so wonderful 31/07/19 12:45:00 David Lesniak
                                          Re:Re:Not so wonderful 31/07/19 13:13:00 Ken Munn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Not so wonderful 31/07/19 13:26:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                             Re:Re:Re:Not so wonderful 31/07/19 13:26:00 Janice Evans
                                 Reply01/08/19 20:09:00 Carl Wynne
                                    Re:Reply02/08/19 13:06:00 David Lesniak

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