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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN
Posted by: Francis Rowe
Date/Time: 15/09/21 16:06:00

Michael, you've completely missed the point of my original question. The consultations on the LTNs elsewhere in Ealing were mini-referenda and explicitly so with the leader of Ealing Council saying he would adhere to the outcome. The residents of Bedford Park and Acton Green have not been given that opportunity and that to me seems to lack even-handedness.

I don't believe that making things more difficult for private car users is the policy of either Hounslow Council or Ealing Council - can you point me to where this is in their manifestos or where they have stated it elsewhere? In fact to the best of my recollection they have both explicitly denied being anti-car when accused of it. The only policy maker who has such a dogmatic stance would be Andrew Gilligan who unfortunately is probably the reason Fishers Lane will remain closed.

The problem with using road restrictions to limit private car use is that a large proportion of traffic on London's roads is non-private and the only way you can reduce that is through economic harm. The doctrine of evaporation is a delusion of such a power that nearly nine months on from the Fisher's Lane closure with the associated traffic in the area getting no better some people still believe in it.

I checked the Steer consultation results and surprisingly you didn't pick me up on the error I made in the proportion of people objecting when I said it was around 80% - in fact it was 91% of people opposed to it. You may believe your insight into these matters gives you a greater understanding of what benefits the area than the people who live in it but I think it is you are so blinded by a misconceived dogma that you cannot accept than the measures you support do much more harm than good.


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Why don't Chiswick residents get a 'CPZ-style' consultation on Fishers Lane?15/09/21 09:18:00 Francis Rowe
   Re:Why don't Chiswick residents get a 'CPZ-style' consultation on Fishers Lane?15/09/21 09:42:00 Julian Pavey
   Re:Why don't Chiswick residents get a 'CPZ-style' consultation on Fishers Lane?15/09/21 09:42:00 Mark Edwards
      Re:Re:Why don't Chiswick residents get a 'CPZ-style' consultation on Fishers Lane?15/09/21 11:02:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Re:Why don't Chiswick residents get a 'CPZ-style' consultation on Fishers Lane?15/09/21 12:34:00 Mark Edwards
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Why don't Chiswick residents get a 'CPZ-style' consultation on Fishers Lane?15/09/21 12:47:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why don't Chiswick residents get a 'CPZ-style' consultation on Fishers Lane?15/09/21 12:52:00 Mark Edwards
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Why don't Chiswick residents get a 'CPZ-style' consultation on Fishers Lane?15/09/21 13:06:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Re:Why don't Chiswick residents get a 'CPZ-style' consultation on Fishers Lane?19/09/21 12:34:00 Helen Martin
   Reply15/09/21 09:50:00 Tania Bapuji
   Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 10:02:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 10:32:00 Maggie Dodge
      Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 10:35:00 Simon Tranter
         Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 11:07:00 Francis Rowe
            Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 11:39:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 12:04:00 Francis Rowe
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 12:43:00 Michael Robinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 13:14:00 Anita Blake
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 16:06:00 Francis Rowe
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 16:29:00 Maggie Dodge
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 16:35:00 Michael Robinson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 16:43:00 Bruce Hammal
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 16:54:00 Michael Robinson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 17:24:00 Bruce Hammal
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 17:47:00 Paul Campbell
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 17:51:00 Bruce Hammal
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 17:54:00 Paul Campbell
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 17:59:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN16/09/21 09:56:00 Paul Campbell
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 18:10:00 Michael Robinson
                                          It’s over 15/09/21 18:50:00 Edward Seaton
                                             Re:It’s over 15/09/21 19:56:00 Tom Pike
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 16:43:00 Will Watson
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 16:59:00 Paul Campbell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN19/09/21 12:52:00 Helen Martin
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 18:52:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 19:06:00 Maggie Dodge
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 19:55:00 Peter Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 19:58:00 Carl Wynne
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 21:52:00 Claire Moran
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN15/09/21 22:29:00 Will Watson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN16/09/21 07:39:00 Maggie Dodge
                                       Reply16/09/21 07:58:00 Rob Reynolds
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN16/09/21 14:52:00 Claire Moran
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN16/09/21 20:30:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN16/09/21 11:40:00 Carl Wynne
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN16/09/21 13:41:00 Bruce Hammal
                                       Car Dependency is a Spectrum16/09/21 19:06:00 Hans Lund-Sorensen
                                          Re:Car Dependency is a Spectrum16/09/21 20:42:00 Will Watson
                                             Local Democracy 16/09/21 21:28:00 Russell Pearson
                                             Re:Re:Car Dependency is a Spectrum16/09/21 22:11:00 Maggie Dodge
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN18/09/21 17:02:00 Carl Wynne
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN18/09/21 18:52:00 Russell Pearson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane not a LTN18/09/21 19:14:00 Carl Wynne
                                          Should we set a CO2 ‘tariff’ to charge the drivers of those cars that put out more CO2 more?20/09/21 23:23:00 Andrew Jones
                                             Re:Should we set a CO2 ‘tariff’ to charge the drivers of those cars that put out more CO2 more?21/09/21 00:07:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                Re:Re:Should we set a CO2 ‘tariff’ to charge the drivers of those cars that put out more CO2 more?21/09/21 11:25:00 Andrew Jones
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Should we set a CO2 ‘tariff’ to charge the drivers of those cars that put out more CO2 more?21/09/21 11:40:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Should we set a CO2 ‘tariff’ to charge the drivers of those cars that put out more CO2 more?21/09/21 16:49:00 Janice Evans
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Should we set a CO2 ‘tariff’ to charge the drivers of those cars that put out more CO2 more?21/09/21 17:07:00 Andrew Jones
   Re:Why don't Chiswick residents get a 'CPZ-style' consultation on Fishers Lane?22/09/21 20:28:00 Paul Campbell
      Fishers Lane Staying Calm22/09/21 20:43:00 Edward Seaton
         Re:Fishers Lane Staying Calm22/09/21 20:48:00 Peter Evans
         Re:Fishers Lane Staying Calm22/09/21 21:10:00 Bruce Hammal
            Re:Re:Fishers Lane Staying Calm22/09/21 21:23:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane Staying Calm22/09/21 21:34:00 Bruce Hammal
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane Staying Calm22/09/21 21:39:00 Paul Campbell
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane Staying Calm22/09/21 21:52:00 Bruce Hammal
            Re:Re:Fishers Lane Staying Calm22/09/21 21:55:00 Andrew Steed
               Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane Staying Calm22/09/21 21:59:00 Bruce Hammal
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Fishers Lane Staying Calm22/09/21 22:21:00 Maggie Dodge
                     Reply26/09/21 15:46:00 Andrew OSullivan

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