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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conned by the Tories
Posted by: Toby Lovern
Date/Time: 26/01/05 16:47:00

Luke, I think you've answered your own question. You write

" But unlike America, Germany, Japan and the Euro area, the British economy has grown in every quarter since 1997”

but neglect to mention that the growth did not magically start in 1997, it actually started in 1992 and continued to 1997. Incidentally, inward investment and growth in the UK has actually slowed relative to the other economies you reference, reflecting the current governments successive increases in corporation taxes, investment relief, national insurance for employers etc. So what we see is not a clever chancellor (though I don’t doubt Gordon Brown’s intellect) but a chancellor who has simply maintained an existing economic strategy (though with recent warnings by the IMF on our rampant public sector inflation and increasing levels of waste - which is predicted to reach £20B a year in the NHS alone by 2011 we have clearer insight into the effectiveness of this government’s economic policies.)

You also mention Neil Hamilton, Jeffrey Archer and Jonathan Aitken – I’m sure in the interests of objectivity there are a few more grey area tories in the time they were in government. But we should balance that with the much greater level of sleaze in the current administration –

- Geoffrey Robinson and his substantial tax avoidance schemes
- Peter Mandelson and his forgetfulness when it comes to loans (see above)
- Patronage of Tony Blair for old law / college chums – please step forward Lord Falconer, Levine et al
- Political shilly shallying between the bbc and new labour Greg - Dyke gave them money and ran the BBC, the BBC chairman Gavin Davies’ wife works for Gordon Brown.
- Fast tracked visa’s for a nanny, and an even faster track adoption approval for a baby born outside of the UK when the government fails to make good its promise to speed up adoption for babies born in the UK
- Purchase of flats by Cherrie Blair and large discounts in somewhat unclear circumstances
- Personal use of the RAF flight by the PM and repeated acceptance of inappropriate hospitality – anyone for a holiday paid for by a tobacco baron?
- Cash for questions with Peter Mandolson
- A housing minister ‘forgetting’ he had 5 dwellings being rented out
- Keith Vaz and his promises for privileges


And that list is only for starters – there are the thousands of quango’s stuffed with Labour supporters that have little or no relevant qualifications / experience to justify their position on them – the number of quangos has doubled in 8 years.


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Labour's Next Tax Rises - Capital Gains Tax on Sale of Houses ?19/01/05 19:43:00 David Giles
   Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises - Capital Gains Tax on Sale of Houses ?19/01/05 23:02:00 Toby Lovern
      Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises - Capital Gains Tax on Sale of Houses ?19/01/05 23:28:00 David Giles
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises - Capital Gains Tax on Sale of Houses ?20/01/05 10:26:00 Lois Westby
            Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises - Giving the government ideas20/01/05 12:33:00 Richard Greenhough
               Conned by the Tories20/01/05 14:53:00 James W Roy
                  Re:Voting for the Devil Incarnate20/01/05 15:38:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Voting for the Devil Incarnate21/01/05 19:42:00 David Giles
                  Re:Conned by the Tories20/01/05 18:54:00 David Giles
                     Re:Re:Conned by the Tories21/01/05 08:30:00 James W Roy
                        Re:Re:Re:Conned by the Tories21/01/05 09:09:00 Verification required
                           urrrrgh24/01/05 16:43:00 James W Roy
                              Re:urrrrgh24/01/05 17:04:00 Verification required
                     Re:Re:Conned by the Tories21/01/05 09:48:00 Luke Smith
                        Re:Re:Re:Conned by the Tories24/01/05 18:13:00 Toby Lovern
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Conned by the Tories24/01/05 18:37:00 David Giles
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Conned by the Tories24/01/05 18:58:00 David Giles
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conned by the Tories25/01/05 11:30:00 Luke Smith
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conned by the Tories25/01/05 19:37:00 David Giles
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conned by the Tories26/01/05 16:47:00 Toby Lovern
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Conned by the Tories26/01/05 17:55:00 Luke Smith
                  Re:Conned by the Tories01/09/05 12:43:00 Toby Lovern
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises - Capital Gains Tax on Sale of Houses ?20/01/05 14:52:00 David Giles
               Labour's £10 Billion Tax Rises24/01/05 14:48:00 David Giles
                  Quote from Financial Times24/01/05 15:30:00 Luke Smith
                     Re:Quote from Financial Times24/01/05 16:09:00 David Giles
                        Re:Re:Quote from Financial Times24/01/05 18:54:00 Andy Langley
                           Re:Re:Re:Quote from Financial Times24/01/05 18:57:00 Andy Langley
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Quote from Financial Times24/01/05 23:12:00 Verification required
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Quote from Financial Times25/01/05 10:56:00 Andy Langley
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Quote from Financial Times25/01/05 12:58:00 David Giles
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Quote from Financial Times25/01/05 13:04:00 Phil Andrews
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Quote from Financial Times25/01/05 13:27:00 David Giles
                                             Re:Oranges are not the only fruit ?25/01/05 13:35:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                More Like Roger Bunn n/m25/01/05 15:14:00 James W Roy
                                                Re:Re:Oranges are not the only fruit ?01/02/05 20:42:00 David Giles
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Quote from Financial Times25/01/05 14:52:00 Paul Pryce
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Quote from Financial Times25/01/05 14:58:00 Luke Smith
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Quote from Financial Times25/01/05 15:02:00 Paul Pryce
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Quote from Financial Times25/01/05 15:48:00 Andy Langley
                                          Apology25/01/05 15:58:00 David Giles
                                             Re:Apology25/01/05 16:02:00 Andy Langley
                                                Re:Re:Apology26/01/05 13:28:00 David Giles
                                             Re:Apology25/01/05 16:12:00 Luke Smith
                                                Re:Re:Apology26/01/05 13:30:00 David Giles
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Apology26/01/05 13:48:00 Andy Langley
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Apology26/01/05 15:03:00 Mark Evans
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Apology31/01/05 19:54:00 David Giles
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Apology31/01/05 20:18:00 Ann S. Allridge
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Apology31/01/05 20:23:00 Paul Pryce
                                                               www.richmond-online.co.uk01/02/05 19:30:00 David Giles
                                                                  No denials regarding tax rises from Labour supporters02/02/05 18:47:00 David Giles
                                                                     Re:No denials regarding tax rises from Labour supporters04/02/05 18:54:00 David Giles
                                                                        Re:Re:No denials regarding tax rises from Labour supporters04/02/05 22:32:00 Robert Brown
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:No denials regarding tax rises from Labour supporters07/02/05 12:30:00 David Giles
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:No denials regarding tax rises from Labour supporters07/02/05 12:56:00 Luke Smith
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:No denials regarding tax rises from Labour supporters07/02/05 17:57:00 Colin Jordan
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No denials regarding tax rises from Labour supporters07/02/05 18:12:00 Richard Jennings
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No denials regarding tax rises from Labour supporters07/02/05 18:19:00 Paul Pryce
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:No denials regarding tax rises from Labour supporters07/02/05 22:41:00 Robert Brown
                                                                  Re:www.richmond-online.co.uk08/02/05 23:25:00 Judith Miles
   Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises - Capital Gains Tax on Sale of Houses ?07/02/05 22:01:00 Colin Vaughan
      Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises - Capital Gains Tax on Sale of Houses ?08/02/05 10:25:00 Colin Jordan
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises - Capital Gains Tax on Sale of Houses ?08/02/05 10:56:00 Luke Smith
      Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises -  Revaluation of Houses08/02/05 11:45:00 David Giles
         Re:Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises -  Revaluation of Houses08/02/05 12:25:00 Colin Jordan
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises -  Revaluation of Houses08/02/05 18:34:00 David Giles
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises -  Revaluation of Houses09/02/05 09:46:00 Lois Westby
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises -  Revaluation of Houses09/02/05 19:02:00 David Giles
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises -  Revaluation of Houses10/02/05 09:06:00 Lois Westby
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises -  Revaluation of Houses10/02/05 13:26:00 Colin Jordan
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Labour's Next Tax Rises -  Revaluation of Houses10/02/05 15:37:00 David Giles

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