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Topic: Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!
Posted by: Phil Joseph
Date/Time: 08/08/14 21:59:00

Can I just make a few things absolutely clear (which some of those with more reactionary and less informed views may wish to mull over):

Spirit Group (the company that owns Taylor Walker pubs) is a LEASEHOLDER of the property with an extant lease on the property;
It is the FREEHOLDERS who are proposing demolition of the property;
The current operation of the pub appears viable for Spirit Group and there is no question of it closing or being demolished on those grounds even if Spirit Group had been the freeholders - plenty of people are 'using it' so absolutely no need to 'lose it';
Yes, the pub has some architectural value and makes for a more interesting and diverse High Road; BUT
The pub employs many staff directly and supports employment more widely (it doesn't take too many pubs to close before brewers, draymen and the like have to be made redundant); and
The pub is the HOME to a number of staff who, given one month's notice, have no alternative housing arrangements.

So what do we actually have here: a corporate who:

Have no regard for the current business operating from the site they own the freehold to;
Have no regard to the community asset that the pub offers to locals, visitors, tourists and the like (no 20 breakfasts here, but all quite affordable and drinkable/edible);
Wish to see several (or could be many) staff lose employment and have to call on taxpayers to potentially support them financially;
Will potentially make homeless a number of existing staff who live on site; and
Wish to replace the pub with flats/apartments which can only be afforded by oligarchs or investors who will have doo-diddly interest in the area (you really think any hypothetical spending potential of any putative tenants would outweigh the human/financial disadvantages?).

Much like the Morrisons advert - I like this pub; and I like that pub (I really am quite ecumenical in my choice of drinking holes). I like the choice that Chiswick offers for pubs to suit all tastes, needs and wallets. By allowing this pub to be demolished through a failure to act you devalue Chiswick, you devalue your community and you devalue yourselves.

Oh, and as an aside, did anyone spot that the official notice hasn't actually been signed (in any term I would understand) making it invalid under sub-paragraph A.3 of the relevant legislation? Perhaps I, and we all, are just the bait in a corporate fishing expedition to test local opinion as I originally surmised? Personally, I'd rather not take that risk.


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The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!06/08/14 20:03:00 Phil Joseph
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!06/08/14 20:05:00 Phil Joseph
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!06/08/14 21:34:00 Adam Beamish
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 06:54:00 Colin Jordan
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 14:35:00 Will Watson
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 08:57:00 Adam Beamish
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 09:54:00 Alastair Banton
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 10:16:00 Trudie Fuller
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 10:56:00 Paul Pryce
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 11:50:00 Julian Pavey
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 12:15:00 Catherine Jones
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 13:34:00 Carl Wynne
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 14:42:00 Karen Liebreich
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 12:38:00 Corrie Corrigan
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 13:54:00 Alex Brown
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 14:11:00 Colin Jordan
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 14:33:00 Alastair Banton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 17:54:00 Esther Gibbs
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 16:49:00 Simon Giles
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 15:16:00 David Marles
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 15:49:00 Julian Pavey
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 16:01:00 Andrew Cumming
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 16:11:00 Adrian Irving
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished! - ADVICE07/08/14 18:43:00 Adam ONeill
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished! - ADVICE07/08/14 20:55:00 Adam Beamish
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished! - ADVICE07/08/14 22:12:00 Adam ONeill
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished! - ADVICE07/08/14 22:33:00 Adam Beamish
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 18:46:00 Claire Moran
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 19:25:00 Trudie Fuller
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 19:36:00 Julian Pavey
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 19:44:00 Paul Charlton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 19:59:00 Trudie Fuller
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 20:23:00 Matt Harmer
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 21:20:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 21:37:00 Julian Pavey
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 20:43:00 Peter Millman
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 21:01:00 Adam Beamish
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 22:17:00 Peter Millman
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 22:53:00 Adam Beamish
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 20:59:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 21:04:00 Pete Mayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 21:02:00 Phil Joseph
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 21:26:00 Adam Beamish
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 21:36:00 Gordon McDonald
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 21:42:00 Julian Pavey
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 22:17:00 Adam ONeill
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 22:19:00 David Marles
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!07/08/14 23:50:00 John Connelly
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 08:30:00 Colin Jordan
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 08:54:00 Will Watson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 09:41:00 Julian Pavey
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 10:07:00 Gordon McDonald
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 10:12:00 Julian Pavey
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 10:35:00 Dave Jervis
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 11:02:00 David McLoughlin
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 12:43:00 Andrew Cumming
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 13:27:00 Adam Beamish
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 16:11:00 Guy Lambert
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 16:55:00 Adrian Irving
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 17:52:00 Thomas Barry
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 21:21:00 James Weatherley
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 18:49:00 Mike Paterson
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 20:00:00 Stuart Kerr
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 21:29:00 David Roberts
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!08/08/14 21:59:00 Phil Joseph
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!09/08/14 07:56:00 Tom Lakin
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!09/08/14 08:01:00 Adam Beamish
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!09/08/14 09:52:00 Phil Joseph
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!09/08/14 09:53:00 Adam Beamish
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!15/08/14 22:14:00 Phil Joseph
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!15/08/14 22:28:00 Adam Beamish
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!09/08/14 10:00:00 Guy Lambert
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!09/08/14 11:23:00 Adam Beamish
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!10/08/14 15:40:00 Ian Speed
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!10/08/14 15:57:00 Ian Speed
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!10/08/14 16:30:00 Simon Giles
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!10/08/14 20:15:00 Eithne Ryan
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!10/08/14 22:13:00 Ian Speed
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!11/08/14 11:53:00 Simon Giles
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!11/08/14 09:33:00 Michelle Phypers
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!11/08/14 12:17:00 Alex Brown
   :The Packhorse and Talbot 11/08/14 12:23:00 John Todd
      Re::The Packhorse and Talbot 11/08/14 12:36:00 Eithne Ryan
         Re:Re::The Packhorse and Talbot 11/08/14 13:42:00 Adam Beamish
            Re:Re:Re::The Packhorse and Talbot 11/08/14 14:15:00 Mark Talbot
            Re:Re:Re::The Packhorse and Talbot 11/08/14 14:26:00 Ian Speed
            Re:Re:Re::The Packhorse and Talbot 11/08/14 19:47:00 Phil Joseph
               Re:Re:Re:Re::The Packhorse and Talbot 12/08/14 08:39:00 Adam Beamish
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!12/08/14 06:42:00 Barbara Karayi
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!12/08/14 08:24:00 Colin Jordan
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!12/08/14 10:11:00 Mark Talbot
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!12/08/14 10:23:00 Pete Mayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!12/08/14 10:26:00 Keith Iddon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!12/08/14 13:49:00 Mark Talbot
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!12/08/14 15:35:00 Colin Jordan
                     The Packhorse and Talbot - convert into a Macdonalds?12/08/14 22:03:00 Angus McPhail
                        Re:The Packhorse and Talbot - convert into a Macdonalds?14/08/14 11:02:00 Adam Beamish
                        Re:The Packhorse and Talbot - convert into a Macdonalds?14/08/14 11:04:00 Andrew Cumming
   Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!14/08/14 14:49:00 Mike Paterson
      Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!14/08/14 15:01:00 Adam Beamish
         Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!14/08/14 17:26:00 Colin Jordan
            Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!16/08/14 09:18:00 Francis Rowe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!16/08/14 11:26:00 Guy Lambert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!16/08/14 12:09:00 Elizabeth Ross
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:The Packhorse and Talbot is to be demolished!16/08/14 14:32:00 Adam Beamish
                     Solidarity at the P&T 17/08/14 12:20:00 Ian Speed

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