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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article -
Posted by: Tina Pemberton
Date/Time: 11/11/10 22:56:00

Totally agree with what you say Michael.

Did you know that to be a social worker you have to have level 4 maths - I did not have this and so could not get the training. When I asked if the maths was used for anything I was told no, but the government wants you to have this!  This is one area where life experience and the person would be far more important than qualifications alone.

On further issues in this debate - What is a Mickey Mouse course exactly - many of these courses may lead to jobs whereas I know young graduates who cannot get jobs in their field of work.  I totally agree that anyone in a service in this country i.e. doctor, nurse, teacher, all hospital workers etc etc should not be paying for courses at all.  Perhaps they should have to pay if, say, they try to take themselves abroad after having been trained here for free.  There should be a rule that you pay a fine before a set amount of years are given to this country (maybe five years after you have qualified?). We need to bring back far more training courses for jobs which can be learned whilst working. Nurses do not need degrees - the best nurses I worked with in '79 did not have them and those who went to University taking their degrees did not want to get their hands 'dirty' actually nursing. My own experience of hospitals generally is that standards have definitely fallen overall.

Re the dumbing down of syllabuses and pass marks - having a child doing A levels I can only say that I struggled to even understand her English literature at GCE level let alone some of the work she is doing for her A's.  I found things a lot easier to understand when I was younger as it was in plain English - this was definitely not. Different examiners do things in a different way and some are easier to understand then others which I think is grossly unfair and believe it should be the same right across the board.
My own education was secondary modern barr one grammar school and I can say, without doubt, that the grammar school had a higher level of teaching.  I am absolutely positive that some of the young bright people in our local schools would have excelled in the private schools given the quality of teaching and the excellent results right across the board.  This is definitely not just because they have pupils who happen to be more clever but because of the whole culture of these schools towards homework, learning, discipline etc, judging from other parents I know whose children went private as opposed to state schools.

As for going abroad, many people I know would if they could afford to and many have, never to venture back to our shores again.  We will definitely be heading for a brain drain if things continue as they are doing.

Funny your mentioning of corporations after the news on China - Our country was meant to be attracting business over here instead of which some of our bigger businesses are now attracted to moving over to China.  There's an ironic situation for you. 

Incidentally, I am referring to several posts in one go here so if you are wondering why I might have mentioned some things it is because I am taking on board what others might have mentioned too!!


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Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 15:10:00 John Connelly
   Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 16:50:00 Carrie Richards
      Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 16:57:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
      Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 17:21:00 Vanessa Smith
         Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 17:26:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 18:01:00 Carrie Richards
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 18:12:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 18:27:00 Tina Pemberton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 18:36:00 Vanessa Smith
                     5/1 Coalition does a uturn at Ladbrokes...10/11/10 18:43:00 Carrie Richards
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 18:50:00 Tina Pemberton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 18:40:00 Carrie Richards
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 19:57:00 William Beausire
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 21:21:00 Guy Lambert
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 22:51:00 William Beausire
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees12/11/10 01:28:00 Guy Lambert
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees13/11/10 12:15:00 William Beausire
                     Re:Suffragettes11/11/10 16:39:00 Richard Greenhough
   Re:Rioters spoil Demonstration against increased student fees10/11/10 20:04:00 Elizabeth Ross
      Re: Not just a few bad apples then.....10/11/10 20:57:00 Carrie Richards
         Re:Re: Not just a few bad apples then.....10/11/10 21:04:00 Carrie Richards
            Re Brillian article - 10/11/10 21:38:00 Carrie Richards
               Re:Re Brillian article - 10/11/10 22:32:00 John Connelly
                  Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 10/11/10 22:57:00 William Beausire
                     Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 10/11/10 23:09:00 Guy Lambert
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 13/11/10 12:09:00 William Beausire
                  Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 10/11/10 23:43:00 Carrie Richards
                     Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 08:23:00 Bernadette Paul
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 08:46:00 Tina Pemberton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 09:11:00 Carrie Richards
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 10:15:00 Brenda OSullivan
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 10:43:00 Tina Pemberton
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 11:12:00 Carrie Richards
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 11:13:00 Carrie Richards
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 11:29:00 Emma Thatcher
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 11:31:00 Carrie Richards
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 11:37:00 Emma Thatcher
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 11:43:00 Susan Kelly
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 11:54:00 Carrie Richards
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 11:58:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 12:15:00 Michael Daley
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 17:44:00 Tina Pemberton
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 19:30:00 Michael Daley
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 19:56:00 Carrie Richards
                                                            Re: Wights and Wongs 12/11/10 12:07:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                               Re:Re: Wights and Wongs 12/11/10 12:52:00 Robin Taylor
                                                                  Re:Re:Re: Wights and Wongs 12/11/10 14:53:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 22:56:00 Tina Pemberton
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 11/11/10 12:18:00 John Connelly
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 13/11/10 09:36:00 Francis Rowe
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 13/11/10 11:28:00 Carrie Richards
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 13/11/10 12:26:00 William Beausire
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 13/11/10 13:05:00 Carrie Richards
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 13/11/10 13:10:00 Carrie Richards
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brillian article - 13/11/10 13:36:00 William Beausire
                                                               Re: Zeigest - the movie...part 2. 13/11/10 21:13:00 Carrie Richards
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brilliant article - 11/11/10 16:49:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brilliant article - 11/11/10 17:48:00 Carrie Richards
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brilliant article - 11/11/10 18:06:00 Richard Greenhough
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                                                Re:Reality check11/11/10 19:45:00 Carrie Richards
                                                   Re:Re:Reality check12/11/10 12:26:00 William Beausire
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Reality check12/11/10 19:15:00 Carrie Richards
                                                Re:Reality check11/11/10 22:36:00 Brian Coyle
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re Brilliant article - 11/11/10 20:41:00 Robin Taylor
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