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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security
Posted by: Donna Fraser
Date/Time: 24/08/15 17:34:00

I think the question was about security. Imho, whilst I of course feel sorry for people living in such conditions, to a large extent, it's a self induced situation, in that you can and should apply for refugee and asylum status in the first safe country you arrive at. If genuine, in time you get eu citizenship and can go where you like in Europe. Whilst I genuinely do feel sorry for people being so desperate, I simply can't see how one continent, Europe, can subsume untold millions from another continent without whole societies collapsing. So for me, I'm afraid the situation in Calais is more a case of people deciding where they want to be, rather than being in a safe place. For my own part, I'm British, married to a New Zealand man for 20 years. 5 years ago we wanted to go and see if I liked it there enough to relocate. We'd lived there for a year some time ago. Not only was the bureaucracy ridiculous, there were also heaps of medical tests I was required to undertake, then the financial costs, huge, just for me to go and live with my mother in law. We're still here. Think the point I'm getting at is regardless of what's going on in this mad world, nobody has the right to rock up at another border and demand entry. Different if you're prepared to abide by the law and processes. Quite different if you don't. Imho. Donna

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Security24/08/15 15:33:00 R Atterwill
   Re:Security24/08/15 15:49:00 Carl Wynne
      Re:Re:Security24/08/15 16:00:00 R Atterwill
         Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 16:05:00 Carl Wynne
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 16:32:00 R Atterwill
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 17:34:00 Carl Wynne
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 17:40:00 R Atterwill
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security25/08/15 15:18:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 17:34:00 Donna Fraser
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 17:46:00 R Atterwill
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 18:31:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 19:00:00 Brian Coyle
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 19:24:00 Robert Fish
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 19:37:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 19:41:00 Andy Pease
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 19:53:00 R Atterwill
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 19:53:00 Brian Coyle
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 19:57:00 Robert Fish
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 20:00:00 Claire Moran
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 20:08:00 Robert Fish
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 20:16:00 Carl Wynne
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 20:18:00 Claire Moran
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 23:06:00 Robert Fish
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security25/08/15 03:02:00 Claire Moran
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 20:03:00 R Atterwill
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 19:54:00 Robert Fish
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security25/08/15 15:04:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 21:57:00 Donna Fraser
   Re:Security24/08/15 19:57:00 Claire Moran
      Re:Re:Security24/08/15 20:07:00 R Atterwill
         Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 20:17:00 Alex Thomas
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 20:27:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security & Skyscrapers in Cheesetown24/08/15 20:33:00 Alex Thomas
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security & Skyscrapers in Cheesetown24/08/15 20:35:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security & Skyscrapers in Cheesetown24/08/15 20:38:00 Alex Thomas
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security & Skyscrapers in Cheesetown24/08/15 20:47:00 Claire Moran
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security & Skyscrapers in Cheesetown24/08/15 22:03:00 Donna Fraser
   Re:Security24/08/15 20:39:00 Keith Iddon
      Re:Re:Security  + hey Keith?24/08/15 21:04:00 Alex Thomas
         Re:Re:Re:Security  + hey Keith?24/08/15 21:08:00 Brian Coyle
   Re:Security24/08/15 21:09:00 Keith Iddon
      Re:Re:Security24/08/15 21:12:00 Claire Moran
         Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 21:13:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 21:17:00 bobby osborne
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 21:24:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 21:29:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 21:30:00 bobby osborne
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security25/08/15 15:07:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security24/08/15 21:35:00 Claire Moran
      Re:Re:Security & Scabies in Gunnersbury24/08/15 21:17:00 Alex Thomas
         Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 21:33:00 Stuart Kerr
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 21:38:00 Keith Iddon
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 21:48:00 Alex Thomas
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 21:39:00 Claire Moran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 21:41:00 Stuart Kerr
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 21:47:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 21:49:00 Stuart Kerr
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 22:16:00 Claire Moran
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 22:23:00 Carl Wynne
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 22:28:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 22:30:00 bobby osborne
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 24/08/15 22:39:00 Claire Moran
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 15:10:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 00:43:00 Robert Fish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 02:57:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 08:49:00 bobby osborne
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 08:58:00 Robert Fish
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 09:16:00 Stuart Kerr
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 10:16:00 Stuart Kerr
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 11:56:00 Brian Coyle
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 14:51:00 Rima Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 15:15:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 16:33:00 Adrian Irving
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 16:38:00 Richard Greenhough
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 16:43:00 Adrian Irving
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 16:49:00 Adrian Irving
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 17:30:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 19:17:00 Donna Fraser
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 25/08/15 23:10:00 Richard Jennings
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 26/08/15 13:26:00 Rima Jones
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Security 26/08/15 13:46:00 Richard Greenhough

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