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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development
Posted by: Kathleen Healy
Date/Time: 24/11/14 01:03:00

Not suggesting the lend lease development will be as bad as Woolwich Central, but this is an interesting and illuminating article on how developments can go very wrong. Refreshing that the councillor and former chair of planning  is so honest about his blunder.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/03/woolwich-central-tesco-carbuncle-cup

Developers are allowed to make changes after permission is granted that can greatly alter the look of a development The public with no particular expertise has to try to assess from drawings what a building will look like once built. Materials have a big impact on how a building looks, but that can be hard to ascertain from drawings.

I don't think people are anti development but the last 40 years have seen some horrendous development that has blighted areas; aesthetically and economically. That is, I think, why people are wary an mistrustful of new developments. The nicest and most successful town centres are the ones that, like Chiswick, didn't get a new shopping mall in the 70's or 80's. having escaped then, I think it is reasonable that people want to keep the pleasant and successful town centre they have.

It seems unfair to blame the public and call us NIMBYs. Inept architects and developers concerned with cost and profit and not the long term impact of development on an area should bear a lot of the responsibility for the public's reticence about development.


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Empire House Development17/11/14 18:18:00 Julian Pavey
   Re:Empire House Development17/11/14 18:18:00 Julian Pavey
      Re:Re:Empire House Development17/11/14 18:23:00 Gordon McDonald
         Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development17/11/14 18:37:00 Julian Pavey
         Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development17/11/14 18:37:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development17/11/14 18:47:00 Loraine Pemberton
         Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development17/11/14 18:45:00 Carl Wynne
      Re:Re:Empire House Development17/11/14 21:39:00 Richard Jennings
   Re:Empire House Development17/11/14 23:53:00 Thomas Barry
      Re:Re:Empire House Development17/11/14 23:57:00 Anna Marie
      Re:Re:Empire House Development18/11/14 00:08:00 Anna Marie
         Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development18/11/14 01:41:00 Karen Liebreich
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development18/11/14 06:51:00 Paul Corcoran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development18/11/14 08:29:00 Elizabeth Ross
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development18/11/14 08:44:00 Elizabeth Ross
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development18/11/14 08:49:00 Elizabeth Ross
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development19/11/14 05:39:00 Elizabeth Ross
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development19/11/14 09:59:00 Jonathan Bingham
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development19/11/14 10:10:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development19/11/14 11:05:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development19/11/14 13:58:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development19/11/14 14:12:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development19/11/14 14:20:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development19/11/14 14:47:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development19/11/14 15:31:00 Dave William
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development19/11/14 19:28:00 Carl Wynne
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development22/11/14 10:07:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development22/11/14 22:28:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development23/11/14 09:01:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development23/11/14 10:06:00 Adam Beamish
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development23/11/14 12:33:00 Elizabeth Ross
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development23/11/14 12:37:00 Carl Wynne
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development23/11/14 14:37:00 Claire Moran
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development23/11/14 15:04:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development23/11/14 16:09:00 Adam Beamish
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development23/11/14 21:31:00 Francis Rowe
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development23/11/14 22:42:00 Adam Beamish
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development24/11/14 00:07:00 John Connelly
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Empire House Development24/11/14 01:03:00 Kathleen Healy
                                                                     The planning process24/11/14 07:59:00 John Todd
                                                                        Adam Beamish and the planning process24/11/14 08:13:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                           Re:Adam Beamish and the planning process24/11/14 10:02:00 Paul Corcoran
                                                                              What has party politics got to do with it?24/11/14 11:23:00 Jonathan Bingham
                                                                           Re:Adam Beamish and the planning process24/11/14 10:05:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                              Re:Re:Adam Beamish and the planning process24/11/14 10:15:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Adam Beamish and the planning process24/11/14 10:53:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Adam Beamish and the planning process24/11/14 12:28:00 Adam Beamish

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