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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine
Posted by: Sam Hearn
Date/Time: 28/08/14 14:12:00

Hi Vanesss - I think that you mean the DBS (Disclosure & Banning Service) the Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) and the Independent Safeguarding Authority (ISA) were merged in 2012 with cross party approval.

It is impossible to prove what might have happened if CRB/DBS checking had not been in place. But surely children and vulnerable adults should be protected from those with a record of harming children and vulnerable adults.

Effective deterrence and prevention controls are usually preferable to detection controls. Although detection controls are of course important - e.g. Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford and Leeds.

However the following extract from Wiki shows that the system has been far from perfect in the past and can cause unintended adverse consequences;

"Sociologist Frank Furedi has stated that CRB checks cannot provide a "cast-iron guarantee that children will be safe with a particular adult", and that their use has created an atmosphere of suspicion and is "poisoning" relationships between the generations, with many ordinary parents finding themselves regarded as "potential child abusers".

The restrictions imposed by the CRB check process have contributed to a shortage of adult volunteers in organizations such as Girlguiding UK.

In February 2004, the National Audit Office criticised the CRB for "huge" delays.

In May 2006, the Home Office revealed that about 2,700 people were mislabelled as criminals during checks.[19]

In 2009 the CRB's Enhanced Disclosure was criticised for including details of any minor contact an individual has had with the police, even where no formal action was taken against them."

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Just imagine27/08/14 20:40:00 Pete Mayes
   Re:Just imagine27/08/14 20:45:00 Oliver Gibb
   Re:Just imagine27/08/14 20:45:00 Claire Moran
      Re:Re:Just imagine27/08/14 20:57:00 Pete Mayes
         Re:Re:Re:Just imagine27/08/14 21:00:00 Claire Moran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine27/08/14 21:04:00 Pete Mayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine27/08/14 21:09:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine27/08/14 21:56:00 Pete Mayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine27/08/14 22:03:00 Claire Moran
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine27/08/14 22:17:00 Vanessa Smith
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine27/08/14 22:22:00 Claire Moran
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine28/08/14 10:21:00 Vanessa Smith
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine28/08/14 11:05:00 Sam Hearn
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine28/08/14 11:09:00 Brian Coyle
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine28/08/14 11:10:00 Will Watson
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine28/08/14 11:12:00 William Luckman
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine28/08/14 13:07:00 Vanessa Smith
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine28/08/14 13:09:00 Vanessa Smith
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine28/08/14 13:55:00 Pete Mayes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine28/08/14 14:12:00 Sam Hearn
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine28/08/14 18:01:00 Vanessa Smith
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine29/08/14 17:31:00 Pete Mayes
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine29/08/14 17:42:00 Claire Moran
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine29/08/14 18:27:00 Pete Mayes
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine29/08/14 18:53:00 Robert Fish
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine29/08/14 18:57:00 Pete Mayes
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine29/08/14 19:07:00 Pete Mayes
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine29/08/14 19:15:00 Robert Fish
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine29/08/14 19:46:00 Pete Mayes
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Just imagine30/08/14 10:41:00 Keith Iddon
                                                                              Wow!!!...30/08/14 17:25:00 Stuart Kerr

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