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Topic: Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera
Posted by: Michael Robinson
Date/Time: 13/03/25 09:47:00

Peter,

A 'No Entry Except For Access' restriction is in place along Green Dragon Lane in Brentford.  This is enforced by cameras at each end of the road, so about 1km apart.

A couple of years ago I checked the London Tribunals website which has a register of appeals against driving offences.  Of the 6 or so driver appeals for being fined on Green Dragon Lane, the adjudicator rejected every one and accepted the camera evidence from Hounslow that the driver had contravened the 'Except for Access' restriction and had driven through without stopping.

So in these cases, evidence from two cameras with timestamps when the driver had passed them were sufficient to convince the adjudicator that they hadn't stopped to access anything on the road.

Having said that, Hounslow hasn't implemented this type of camera enforcement on any other streets and a single camera wouldn't be sufficient to enforce 'except for access' restrictions covering a street about 1km in length.

I'd speculate that there are other reasons why it hasn't been used elsewhere - it may be too technically or operationally complex for widespread deployment.

The Grove Park Group were advocating this restriction should be applied to the entire Grove Park area, covering about 8 different entrances/exits or 50+ different combinations of entries and exits, but this was pie in the sky.


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SOTG/Kew Bridge camera12/03/25 21:07:00 Jim Brown
   Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 00:02:00 Peter Evans
      Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 09:47:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 11:45:00 Peter Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 12:58:00 Michael Robinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 18:50:00 Peter Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 19:19:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 20:47:00 Peter Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera13/03/25 21:33:00 Peter Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 01:10:00 Michael Robinson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 07:48:00 Simon Hayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 07:59:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 09:23:00 Colin Jordan
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 13:10:00 Simon Hayes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 20:47:00 Guy Lambert
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 23:01:00 Simon Hayes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 23:36:00 Guy Lambert
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera15/03/25 18:50:00 N V Brooks
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                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera16/03/25 09:57:00 Guy Lambert
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                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 06:25:00 Guy Lambert
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                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera14/03/25 23:01:00 Peter Evans
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera15/03/25 22:45:00 Andrew Jones
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                                                   Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera16/03/25 15:15:00 Jim Brown
                                                      Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera16/03/25 16:35:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                         Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 00:26:00 Peter Evans
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 06:58:00 Simon Hayes
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 08:48:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 11:27:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 12:43:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 13:02:00 Peter Evans
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:SOTG/Kew Bridge camera17/03/25 13:41:00 Bruce Hammal
                                                                           Reply26/03/25 08:40:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                              Re:Reply26/03/25 12:44:00 Peter Evans
                                                                                 Re:Re:Reply26/03/25 13:59:00 Brian Green
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/25 17:04:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                 Re:Re:Reply27/03/25 17:15:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/25 21:30:00 Peter Evans
                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Reply27/03/25 21:32:00 Peter Evans
                                                                                       Reply01/04/25 14:56:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                          Re:Reply01/04/25 15:53:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                             Re:Re:Reply01/04/25 16:39:00 Peter Evans
                                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Reply01/04/25 18:44:00 Michael Robinson
                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply14/04/25 11:35:00 Francis Rowe
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply14/04/25 12:20:00 Andrew Jones
                                                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply14/04/25 12:31:00 Michael Robinson

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