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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?
Posted by: Stewart Dean
Date/Time: 20/05/13 12:18:00

I believe what Vanessa is saying is that Europe in/out is not an issue with most people whilst employment etc. are.

Tax fiddling, or shall we say tax avoidance rather than tax evasion, is a problem that, if correctly faced, would make a massive dent in the deficit. It would mean we would not have to be making cuts which, as it turns out, cost money anyway. Who would have thought that change is expensive?

By putting the pressure on those that can pay rather than forcing austerity measures on those that can't we get the money flowing back into 'UK PLC' whilst maintaing high levels of employment, housing, education etc.

'Trickledown' only happens if the rules are set up to allow that to happen and this government is staunchly in favour for blocking any changes that encourage this to happen. For example the Financial Transaction Tax (FTT) coming into place in Europe is a great way to get money that simply adds to rather large numbers for large organisation back into everyday life where each pound does many times more good to the economy as a whole. From a systems theory point of view it's a simple and very effective economy stimulus that, in turn, creates more money for those who are taxed. It only doesn't work if you take a short term 'I want it all now' mindset. And yet Osbourne, acting in the 'interests' of the financial sector, has put in a legal challange against it.

http://robinhoodtax.org.uk/latest/osbornes-legal-challenge-europe

Likewise this government is unlikely to chase up large businesses or individual contracts for tax as it would be seen as taxing the rich and against the Conservative ethos.  This government essentially puts ideology before sound economics and risks another massive downturn in the process (which many predict will happen in a few months).

When you house is on fire there is no point watering the garden. The tories are trying to get money from all the wrong places.


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Swivel-eyed loons?19/05/13 22:32:00 Janine Jarvis
   Re:Swivel-eyed loons?19/05/13 23:03:00 Julian Pavey
   Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 07:57:00 Guy Lambert
      Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 09:21:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 08:25:00 Susan Kelly
   Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 09:15:00 Stewart Dean
      Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 10:36:00 Vanessa Smith
         Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 10:42:00 C Wynne
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 11:03:00 Vanessa Smith
         Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 11:09:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 11:46:00 Guy Lambert
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 12:18:00 Stewart Dean
   Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 12:06:00 Stuart Kerr
      Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 12:10:00 Vanessa Smith
         Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 12:16:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 13:32:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 13:34:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 22:13:00 Robert Forrest
   Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 12:22:00 Pete Mayes
      Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 12:47:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 13:29:00 Neil Muller
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 13:32:00 Stewart Dean
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 13:33:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 13:42:00 Neil Muller
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 14:20:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 13:51:00 Will Watson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 14:14:00 Neil Muller
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 14:22:00 Stewart Dean
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 18:32:00 Will Watson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 14:15:00 Stewart Dean
         Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 13:54:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 14:19:00 Stewart Dean
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 14:29:00 Stuart Kerr
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 15:04:00 Stewart Dean
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 15:15:00 Stuart Kerr
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 14:35:00 Claudia Jachtmann
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 14:39:00 Stuart Kerr
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 14:43:00 Claudia Jachtmann
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 14:45:00 Michael Daley
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 14:52:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 16:23:00 Guy Lambert
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 16:34:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 16:45:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 17:11:00 John Hickman
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 16:51:00 Pete Mayes
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 17:15:00 Stewart Dean
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 17:24:00 Pete Mayes
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 17:43:00 Stewart Dean
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 17:55:00 Pete Mayes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 09:39:00 Stewart Dean
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 11:14:00 Pete Mayes
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 15:57:00 Stewart Dean
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 18:31:00 Pete Mayes
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 20:02:00 Stewart Dean
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 20:14:00 Pete Mayes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 18:01:00 Richard Greenhough
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 18:09:00 Claudia Jachtmann
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 09:29:00 Stewart Dean
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 16:49:00 Iain Muir
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 17:11:00 Neil Muller
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 17:20:00 Pete Mayes
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 17:36:00 Neil Muller
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 17:40:00 Pete Mayes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 18:25:00 Vanessa Smith
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 18:28:00 Pete Mayes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 23:38:00 Thomas Barry
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 17:56:00 Richard Greenhough
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 17:52:00 Richard Greenhough
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 21:10:00 Janine Jarvis
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 21:27:00 Stuart Kerr
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 22:17:00 Janine Jarvis
                                 Janine's quite right, of course20/05/13 22:20:00 Thomas Barry
                                    Re:Janine's quite right, of course20/05/13 22:26:00 Stuart Kerr
                                       Re:Re:Janine's quite right, of course20/05/13 23:39:00 Thomas Barry
                                    Re:Janine's quite right, of course20/05/13 22:26:00 Pete Mayes
            Losing patience with Cllr Hearn's ridiculous parallel universe here20/05/13 23:04:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Losing patience with Cllr Hearn's ridiculous parallel universe here20/05/13 23:39:00 Oliver Gibb
               Re:Losing patience with Cllr Hearn's ridiculous parallel universe here20/05/13 23:53:00 Pete Mayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?20/05/13 23:11:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 00:21:00 Iain Muir
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 09:09:00 Neil Muller
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 09:18:00 Francis Rowe
                  Ian Muir is deeply misleading on one point21/05/13 15:51:00 Thomas Barry
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 09:57:00 Vanessa Smith
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 10:44:00 David Roberts
                     For Mr Tubthumper..21/05/13 10:48:00 Stuart Kerr
                        Re:For Mr Tubthumper..21/05/13 11:11:00 Pete Mayes
                           Re:Re:For Mr Tubthumper..21/05/13 12:12:00 Xanthe West
                           Re:Re:For Mr Tubthumper..21/05/13 15:24:00 Thomas Barry
                              Re:Re:Re:For Mr Tubthumper..21/05/13 16:26:00 Pete Mayes
                        Re:For Mr Tubthumper..21/05/13 15:23:00 Thomas Barry
                        Grown up people on Twitter are watching us...21/05/13 21:43:00 Thomas Barry
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Swivel-eyed loons?21/05/13 15:20:00 Thomas Barry
                        For Mr Tubthumper (again)...21/05/13 18:21:00 Stuart Kerr

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