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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts
Posted by: Andrew OSullivan
Date/Time: 04/12/14 09:47:00

'This is just rubbish. The differential between public sector pay and private sector pay has decreased. not increased since 2008.'

Sorry David but you are wrong. Have a look at this quite informative article from the Guardian on the issue. In it there is a link to a YouTube video from the Office of National Statistics. About 5 mins 40 seconds into the video there is a chart which quite clearly shows the increase of public sector pay relative to the private sector. This doesn't fully take into account all benefits including pensions which if you did would put the public sector pay on average over 17% above private sector.

'Public sector workers include teachers, doctors, nurses, police, fire service etc. etc.  You're paying for skills and qualifications. '

Professions like doctors, nurses, fire fighters, police officer and teachers only make up 7% of the public sector payroll so their impact on the overall average is minimal but you are right that public sector workers do tend to have higher qualifications than private sector workers. However, a more detailed analysis of the data shows this isn't enough to account for the differential.

Actually graduate level employees tend to get higher pay in the private sector but this doesn't tell the full story. I've seen several examples in recent years of people taking a salary cut to move to the public sector - the combination of improved pension entitlements and shorter hours makes it attractive.

Ultimately the economy is dysfunctional if skills shortages are being created in the wealth generating sectors of the economy because people are moving to jobs in which they will make no net contribution to the tax take.

Until the public sector makes the structural adjustment that the rest of the economy has made we are going to have huge problems dealing with the deficit and should expect decades, not years of service cuts.

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Council cuts03/12/14 11:09:00 Thomas Barry
   Re:Council cuts03/12/14 11:22:00 Michael Moran
   Re:Council cuts03/12/14 12:17:00 Ken Munn
      Re:Re:Council cuts03/12/14 12:21:00 John Connelly
         Business rate 03/12/14 12:45:00 John Todd
            Re:Business rate 03/12/14 13:34:00 John Connelly
   Re:Council cuts03/12/14 13:16:00 Adrian Irving
      Re:Re:Council cuts03/12/14 16:08:00 Andrew OSullivan
         Re:Re:Re:Council cuts03/12/14 16:32:00 David McLoughlin
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts04/12/14 09:47:00 Andrew OSullivan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts04/12/14 10:06:00 David McLoughlin
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts04/12/14 13:00:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 08:19:00 Andrew OSullivan
         Re:Re:Re:Council cuts03/12/14 16:35:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts03/12/14 16:44:00 Jeni Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts03/12/14 17:25:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts03/12/14 21:14:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts04/12/14 09:43:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts04/12/14 14:03:00 Adam Beamish
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 08:50:00 Julian Pavey
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 09:21:00 Guy Lambert
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 10:44:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 13:00:00 David McLoughlin
                                    LBH. Consultants05/12/14 13:02:00 John Todd
                                       Re:LBH. Consultants05/12/14 13:29:00 Dave William
                                          Re:Re:LBH. Consultants05/12/14 14:10:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 13:56:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 14:24:00 Guy Lambert
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 19:45:00 Richard Greenhough
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 14:04:00 Steve Taylor
                              Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 14:24:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 14:31:00 John Connelly
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Council cuts05/12/14 14:37:00 Paul Allen

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