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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London
Posted by: Alex Shpinkov
Date/Time: 09/06/19 09:47:00

" if someone is hit by a car at 40 mph they are 90% likely to be killed. At 30 its around 50% and at 20 its more like 10-15%"

This is one of the main flaws of all of these biased studies. It's all about "if someone is hit. And "one would prefer to be hit by a car  moving at 20mph rather than 30".

The thing is that the aim must be not to be hit at all. And there is no independent proof that the number of accidents actually reduce when speed limit is reduced from 30 to 20. And there are no information about the number of accidents that happened at speed between 20 and 30 caused by this speed being too fast.

All 20mph limit does - it promotes negligence - as people understand that it is against common sense, therefore pretty much ignore it, and - once they start doing so for 20mph limit - start ignoring other limits and restrictions that in fact do make sense.

So indeed- if someone wants to address the issue - just ban cars. Or limit the speed to 4mph and get a man with a red flag walk in front of every car.


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20mph Red Route Limit for London05/06/19 19:26:00 Will Watson
   Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London05/06/19 19:29:00 Michael Brown
   Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London05/06/19 19:42:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London05/06/19 19:56:00 James Smith-Jones
         Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London05/06/19 21:07:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London05/06/19 22:14:00 Ken Munn
      Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London06/06/19 08:37:00 James Roy
         Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London06/06/19 09:34:00 Ken Munn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London06/06/19 12:40:00 Brian Coyle
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London06/06/19 12:44:00 Alex Shpinkov
         Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London06/06/19 12:43:00 Alex Shpinkov
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London06/06/19 12:46:00 Will Watson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London06/06/19 16:15:00 Michael Brown
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London06/06/19 16:32:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London08/06/19 09:02:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London08/06/19 09:16:00 Will Watson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London08/06/19 09:29:00 Ken Munn
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London08/06/19 10:41:00 Adrian Irving
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London08/06/19 11:23:00 Michael Brown
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London08/06/19 11:40:00 Tony Smart
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London08/06/19 11:56:00 Mark Perry
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London08/06/19 22:46:00 Tom Trower
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London09/06/19 09:47:00 Alex Shpinkov
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London09/06/19 12:10:00 Tony Smart
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London09/06/19 11:33:00 N V Brooks
   Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London06/06/19 17:07:00 Keith Iddon
      Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London08/06/19 12:18:00 Jennifer Selig
         Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London09/06/19 12:24:00 Andy Pease
            Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London09/06/19 16:23:00 Ken Munn
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:20mph Red Route Limit for London09/06/19 21:48:00 Andy Pease

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