Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | |
Posted by: | Dan Murphy | |
Date/Time: | 14/05/14 15:44:00 |
Will, I am struggling to make myself clear aren't I. I come from a prety devout Irish Catholic family and I (we) too decided to have my children christened when they were born, even though I have absolutely no belief in god at all. I explained it all to the priest in Chiswick and he was delightful about it. It was a lovely day, and the entire family had a wonderful celebration, it did not feel uncomfortable, and no it certainly was not child abuse. I do not think I have to worry about that, or that you have to worry about your grand daughter in that respect. I really don't think you mean these things literally, you're just exaggerating to make your point. We were talking (above) about muslim schools, and I was making a point not about a family christening (for heavens sake) but about concerted, fervent religious indoctrination of children into strict religious beliefs - whether at home or at school. To the point where they are not permitted to consider any alternative path in life, or even discuss it sensibly. This is the religious indoctrination I am referring to, not a family christening (or feeding your children meat). Are you really unable to grasp the difference? Is oit really so impossible to make a point about one thing without it being exaggerated into all sorts of completely irelevant comparisons? I had to give up trying to reason with some of the dog lovers on here because whenever I suggested muzzling, they would say "oh, and so I suppose you would be in favour of putting muzzles on children as well would you?" A completely nonsensical response, because the two things (dogs and children are quite different so you can't equate them). And you are doing a similar thing here. I say religious indoctrination of young children is abuse, and you respond by saying "oh so my grandchild being christened is child abuse is it?" No it's not, the two things are quite different. Why is it so difficult to understand? |
Topic | Date Posted | Posted By |
Trojan Horse | 11/05/14 11:42:00 | Iftikhar Ahmad |
Re:Trojan Horse | 11/05/14 14:07:00 | Janet Norman |
Re:Trojan Horse | 11/05/14 14:39:00 | Oliver Gibb |
Re:Re:Trojan Horse | 11/05/14 14:54:00 | Carl Wynne |
Re:Trojan Horse | 11/05/14 14:42:00 | Andy Pease |
An Open Letter to Iftikar Ahmad | 11/05/14 15:12:00 | Richard Greenhough |
Re:Trojan Horse | 11/05/14 17:01:00 | Vanessa Smith |
Re:Re:Trojan Horse | 11/05/14 17:12:00 | Andy Pease |
Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse | 11/05/14 17:35:00 | Pete Mayes |
Re:public HEALTH warning....! | 11/05/14 17:45:00 | Stuart Kerr |
Re:Re:public HEALTH warning....! | 11/05/14 18:44:00 | Carl Wynne |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse | 11/05/14 17:51:00 | Colin Jordan |
for background | 11/05/14 18:44:00 | Claudia Jachtmann |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse | 11/05/14 18:45:00 | Nikki Howard |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse | 11/05/14 18:50:00 | Anne England |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse or Muppet? | 11/05/14 18:57:00 | Vanessa Smith |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse or Muppet? | 12/05/14 11:05:00 | Sam Hearn Cllr |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse or Muppet? | 12/05/14 12:17:00 | Vanessa Smith |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse or Muppet? | 12/05/14 12:25:00 | Pete Mayes |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse or Muppet? | 12/05/14 12:39:00 | Richard Greenhough |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse or Muppet? | 12/05/14 14:30:00 | Vanessa Smith |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse or Muppet? | 12/05/14 14:48:00 | Dan Murphy |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Has Iftikhar Ahmad been banned? | 12/05/14 16:35:00 | Nikki Howard |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Has Iftikhar Ahmad been banned? | 12/05/14 17:21:00 | Sam Hearn Cllr |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Has Iftikhar Ahmad been banned? | 12/05/14 17:55:00 | Richard Jennings |
'A Balanced View' | 13/05/14 08:57:00 | Francis Rowe |
Re:'A Balanced View' | 13/05/14 09:29:00 | Dan Murphy |
The good thing about evangelists | 13/05/14 10:30:00 | Alastair Banton |
Re:Re:'A Balanced View' | 13/05/14 14:08:00 | Francis Rowe |
Re:Re:Re:'A Balanced View' | 13/05/14 15:09:00 | John Hickman |
Re:Re:Re:Re:'A Balanced View' | 14/05/14 08:32:00 | Francis Rowe |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'A Balanced View' | 14/05/14 08:44:00 | Dan Murphy |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'A Balanced View' | 14/05/14 13:19:00 | Anita Blake |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'A Balanced View' | 14/05/14 13:52:00 | Dan Murphy |
Come off it Dan Murphy. | 14/05/14 14:10:00 | Felicity Caborn |
Re:Come off it Dan Murphy. | 14/05/14 14:38:00 | Dan Murphy |
Re:Re:Come off it Dan Murphy. | 15/05/14 06:43:00 | Felicity Caborn |
Re:Re:Come off it Dan Murphy. | 13/06/14 20:14:00 | Richard Laux |
Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 09:19:00 | Richard Greenhough |
Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 10:10:00 | Colin Jordan |
Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 13:37:00 | Pete Mayes |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 13:54:00 | Dan Murphy |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 14:28:00 | Will Watson |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 14:36:00 | Pete Mayes |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 15:06:00 | Dan Murphy |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 15:29:00 | Will Watson |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 15:44:00 | Dan Murphy |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 16:14:00 | Will Watson |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 16:56:00 | Greg Walker |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 17:01:00 | Huw Burford-Taylor |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 17:14:00 | Dan Murphy |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 17:10:00 | Dan Murphy |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 17:29:00 | Alan Clark |
we are not talking about Religous Schools | 14/05/14 17:51:00 | Claudia Jachtmann |
Alan Clarke | 14/05/14 22:54:00 | Oliver Gibb |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 17:48:00 | Will Watson |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 21:33:00 | John Hickman |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Classical Allusion ? | 14/05/14 22:46:00 | Oliver Gibb |
Christening? | 14/05/14 21:54:00 | Oliver Gibb |
Re:Christening? | 14/05/14 21:59:00 | John Hickman |
Re:Re:Christening? | 14/05/14 22:38:00 | Oliver Gibb |
Re:Re:Re:Christening? | 15/05/14 10:38:00 | John Hickman |
Daily mail??? | 15/05/14 15:03:00 | Oliver Gibb |
Re:Christening? | 15/05/14 05:36:00 | Dan Murphy |
Re:Re:Christening? | 15/05/14 09:21:00 | Nick Mason |
Re:Re:Re:Christening? | 15/05/14 09:31:00 | Dan Murphy |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Christening? | 15/05/14 10:18:00 | Nick Mason |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Christening? | 15/05/14 10:33:00 | Dan Murphy |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Christening? | 15/05/14 10:38:00 | Nick Mason |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:'A Balanced View' | 14/05/14 21:21:00 | John Hickman |
Oliver Gibb | 15/05/14 08:43:00 | Paul Corcoran |
Re:Oliver Gibb | 15/05/14 10:48:00 | John Hickman |
Re:Re:Indoctrination | 15/05/14 11:43:00 | Colin Jordan |
Re:Re:Re:Indoctrination | 15/05/14 12:14:00 | Claudia Jachtmann |
Re:Oliver Gibb | 15/05/14 12:40:00 | Oliver Gibb |
Re:Re:Oliver Gibb | 15/05/14 12:44:00 | Pete Mayes |
Re:Re:Re:Oliver Gibb | 15/05/14 17:35:00 | Colin Jordan |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Oliver Gibb | 15/05/14 17:44:00 | Claudia Jachtmann |
for Colin | 15/05/14 17:50:00 | Claudia Jachtmann |
Re:Re:Oliver Gibb | 15/05/14 22:15:00 | John Hickman |
Re:Re:Re:Oliver Gibb | 15/05/14 22:27:00 | Nikki Howard |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Oliver Gibb | 16/05/14 07:47:00 | Colin Jordan |
it worked Colin | 16/05/14 11:31:00 | Claudia Jachtmann |
Re:it worked Colin | 16/05/14 11:33:00 | Claudia Jachtmann |
Re:Re:Oliver Gibb | 16/05/14 08:11:00 | Paul Corcoran |
Re:Re:Re:Oliver Gibb | 16/05/14 13:56:00 | Colin Jordan |
Re:Trojan Horse | 07/06/14 19:38:00 | Janine Jarvis |
Re:Re:Trojan Horse | 07/06/14 21:37:00 | Julian Pavey |
Re:Re:Re:Trojan Horse | 07/06/14 21:49:00 | Andy Pease |
Re:Re:winding up the spammers | 07/06/14 23:38:00 | bobby osborne |
Re:Re:Re:winding up the spammers | 08/06/14 00:38:00 | Nikki Howard |
Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 08/06/14 12:41:00 | Vanessa Smith |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 08/06/14 17:30:00 | Alastair Banton |
see this link | 12/06/14 08:18:00 | Janine Jarvis |
Re:see this link | 12/06/14 09:46:00 | Andy Pease |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 12/06/14 09:47:00 | Richard Greenhough |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 12/06/14 10:24:00 | Vanessa Smith |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 12/06/14 10:29:00 | Alastair Banton |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 12/06/14 10:30:00 | Alastair Banton |
Possible double standards..? | 12/06/14 10:36:00 | Keith Iddon |
Possible double standards..? | 12/06/14 10:36:00 | Keith Iddon |
Re:Possible double standards..? | 12/06/14 14:06:00 | Alan Clark |
Re:Re:Possible double standards..? | 12/06/14 16:29:00 | Alastair Banton |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 12/06/14 12:37:00 | Claire Moran |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 12/06/14 16:34:00 | Michael Brown |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 12/06/14 16:40:00 | Michael Brown |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 12/06/14 18:21:00 | Richard Greenhough |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 12/06/14 18:25:00 | Michael Brown |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 12/06/14 18:36:00 | Francis Rowe |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 12/06/14 22:03:00 | Claire Moran |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 13/06/14 00:48:00 | Greg Walker |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 13/06/14 22:15:00 | Pete Mayes |
Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Someone missed a trick | 13/06/14 10:17:00 | Vanessa Smith |