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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's not about party politics
Posted by: Tom Pike
Date/Time: 24/02/12 11:45:00

Richard,

Paul is quite reasonably asking for evidence-based policy and so it really is worth seeing how other countries' schools perform against ours, especially those that produce the best education for their children: http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/33/8/46624007.pdf

In the UK, more than any country except Luxembourg, a school's performance is dominated by the background of its pupils. We don't know the names of the two comprehensive schools Paul mentions, but it would be interesting to compare some indicators of their student intake, such as the percentage of free-school meals, before generalising from the particular.

Of course that doesn't mean that the learning environment has no effect, and discipline is critical. In fact students in the UK report better discipline and less disruption than in most other countries, though within Europe it's Germany that sets the benchmark. I don't know how many German students stand to attention behind their desks when the teacher walks in, but few wear uniforms.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Comprehensive Schools - Conclusive Evidence21/02/12 00:01:00 Michael Sterne
   Re:Comprehensive Schools - Conclusive Evidence21/02/12 13:12:00 Sam Hearn Cllr
      Re:Re:Comprehensive Schools - What Evidence ?21/02/12 18:51:00 David Giles
         Re:Re:Re:Comprehensive Schools - What Evidence ?21/02/12 20:37:00 Tom Pike
   Re:Comprehensive Schools - Conclusive Evidence21/02/12 21:39:00 Juliet Golz
      Re:Re:Comprehensive Schools - Conclusive Evidence21/02/12 23:17:00 David Giles
         Re:Re:Re:Comprehensive Schools - Conclusive Evidence23/02/12 13:20:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Comprehensive Schools - Conclusive Evidence23/02/12 15:37:00 Michael Daley
               Independent Schools' Expenditure23/02/12 15:43:00 Michael Sterne
                  Re:Independent Schools' Expenditure23/02/12 17:33:00 Michael Daley
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Comprehensive Schools - Conclusive Evidence23/02/12 18:53:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Comprehensive Schools - Conclusive Evidence23/02/12 20:50:00 Tom Pike
   Re:Comprehensive Schools - Conclusive Evidence22/02/12 00:38:00 Michael Sterne
      Britain dropped down the PISA rankings during New Labour’s period in office.22/02/12 13:54:00 David Giles
         It's not about party politics22/02/12 14:03:00 Michael Sterne
            Re:It's not about party politics23/02/12 14:31:00 Maire Lowe
               Streaming23/02/12 15:27:00 Michael Sterne
                  Re:Streaming23/02/12 16:08:00 Maire Lowe
               Re:Re:It's not about party politics23/02/12 15:55:00 David Giles
                  Re:Re:Re:It's not about party politics23/02/12 16:01:00 David Roberts
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:It's not about party politics23/02/12 17:34:00 Ellen Houghton
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's not about party politics24/02/12 00:06:00 David Giles
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's not about party politics24/02/12 08:39:00 Tom Pike
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's not about party politics24/02/12 09:57:00 Paul Green
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's not about party politics24/02/12 10:04:00 Richard Greenhough
                                    Better Schools24/02/12 11:17:00 Michael Sterne
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's not about party politics24/02/12 11:45:00 Tom Pike
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's not about party politics24/02/12 12:27:00 Paul Green
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:It's not about party politics24/02/12 13:06:00 Tom Pike

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