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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dodgy stats
Posted by: Ed Saper
Date/Time: 03/05/22 11:50:00

I broadly agree - the first period (1999-2009) saw high economic growth with a fall in traffic - in fact the economy was almost 40% higher in 2008, but fell back somewhat in 2009.

That period coincided with large investments in public transport. 

The latter period has seen Amazon and Uber increasing traffic while Google Maps has helped to direct it down previously quiet minor roads, which saw a 54% increase in traffic. 

Policies like the LTNs, the one in Waltham Forest is popular despite initial opposition, are designed to deal with the Google Maps problem, but don't do much to reduce demand. 

In that last 20 years, motoring costs have fallen 15% in real terms while rail fares have increased by 20% and bus fares by 40%. 

It is politically difficult to make motoring more expensive - perhaps with charges or taxes to invest in making public transport cheaper - but that's probably what we'll need to do in the long term. 

In the meantime, policies to reduce the problems caused by Uber (half the cost of a Black Cab) and Amazon (free One Day or Next Day delivery) would help. 

BTW - I swapped the A4 for a bike.  Not a political or moral decision.  It was just much quicker. 



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                                                Re:Dodgy stats30/04/22 10:14:00 Tom Pike
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                                                      Re:Re:Re:Dodgy stats02/05/22 23:37:00 Ed Saper
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Dodgy stats03/05/22 10:13:00 Bill George
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dodgy stats03/05/22 11:50:00 Ed Saper
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 18:12:00 Robert Fish
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 18:26:00 Maggie Dodge
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                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypocrite 30/04/22 19:08:00 Tom Pike
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   Re:Pollution levels at you address04/05/22 13:56:00 Tim Garfoot
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