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Topic: Re:Re:Dodgy stats
Posted by: Justin Stephenson
Date/Time: 02/05/22 21:40:00

Tom: that was an interesting paper which freely highlights the limitations of the methodology (always a good sign in an academic paper). 

The problem is that Chiswick has a number of major routes running through it - A4, A316 running east west, North Circular running north/south and the key pinch points of Hogarth and Chiswick roundabouts.  Then there are other high volume more local routes such as CHR.

Based on the paper the very existence of those routes automatically delivers high pollution readings for most of Chiswick - at least anything within 300m of those routes.

Obviously a move to EVs will dramatically lower pollution (and with the added benefit it is a lot less noisy) but even that will not be enough to save us from scaremongering web sites telling us to "demand action" to reduce pollution - what action would that be?  Closing the A4, A316, North Circular to all traffic and making them cycle lanes - that would reduce pollution but would be economic madness.  Whilst most of us can use our cars a bit less even if everyone cut out 20% of their journeys the web site you mentioned at the start of this thread would still be complaining about high pollution levels and calling on us to "demand action"


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Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 08:53:00 Tom Pike
   Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 08:59:00 Janice Evans
   Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 09:20:00 Loraine Pemberton
      Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 09:40:00 Tom Pike
      Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 09:41:00 Paul Fisher
         Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 09:48:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 09:58:00 Loraine Pemberton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 10:40:00 Bruce Hammal
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 10:56:00 Maggie Dodge
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 11:06:00 Tom Pike
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 11:26:00 Peter Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 11:28:00 Claire Moran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 11:51:00 Peter Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 12:04:00 Matthew Swain
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 13:08:00 Maggie Dodge
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 11:51:00 Loraine Pemberton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 12:11:00 Peter Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 12:19:00 Cecile Parfitt
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 12:35:00 Adrian Irving
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 13:44:00 Maggie Dodge
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 13:46:00 Paul Fisher
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 13:47:00 Maggie Dodge
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 14:16:00 Bruce Hammal
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 14:18:00 Bruce Hammal
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 18:17:00 Maggie Dodge
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 14:41:00 Robert Fish
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 14:38:00 Robert Fish
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 14:52:00 Robert Fish
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address29/04/22 14:55:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                 Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 15:09:00 Richard Cathcart
                                    Re:Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 15:21:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:Re:Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 15:54:00 Steve Taylor
                                    Re:Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 16:35:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                       Re:Re:Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 16:57:00 Robert Fish
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 17:11:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                             Dodgy stats29/04/22 18:06:00 Justin Stephenson
                                                Re:Dodgy stats30/04/22 10:14:00 Tom Pike
                                                   Re:Re:Dodgy stats30/04/22 10:39:00 Andrew Jones
                                                      Reply30/04/22 18:27:00 Tom Pike
                                                         Re:Reply30/04/22 19:25:00 Andrew Jones
                                                            Re:Re:Reply01/05/22 00:39:00 Tom Pike
                                                   Re:Re:Dodgy stats02/05/22 21:40:00 Justin Stephenson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Dodgy stats02/05/22 23:19:00 Tom Pike
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Dodgy stats02/05/22 23:37:00 Ed Saper
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Dodgy stats03/05/22 10:13:00 Bill George
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dodgy stats03/05/22 11:50:00 Ed Saper
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 18:12:00 Robert Fish
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 18:26:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 18:40:00 Robert Fish
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Robert Fish29/04/22 20:00:00 Russell Pearson
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Hypocrite 29/04/22 20:02:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypocrite 29/04/22 20:18:00 Robert Fish
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypocrite 30/04/22 19:08:00 Tom Pike
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypo 30/04/22 19:15:00 Russell Pearson
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypocrite 30/04/22 20:26:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypocrite 30/04/22 20:53:00 Julian Pavey
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReLTNs01/05/22 07:07:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                                        Reply01/05/22 08:49:00 John Hall
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReLTNs01/05/22 09:34:00 Tom Pike
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReLTNs01/05/22 10:34:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                                              Reply01/05/22 11:47:00 John Hall
                                                                                 Re:Reply01/05/22 12:00:00 Maggie Dodge
                                                                                    Reply01/05/22 12:23:00 John Hall
                                                                                    Re:Re:Reply04/05/22 14:35:00 Philippa Bond
                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReLTNs01/05/22 18:47:00 Tom Pike
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:ReLTNs02/05/22 22:54:00 Maggie Dodge
   Re:Pollution levels at you address04/05/22 13:56:00 Tim Garfoot
      Re:Re:Pollution levels at you address04/05/22 14:29:00 Steve Taylor
         Reply04/05/22 17:57:00 Tom Pike
            Re:04/05/22 19:47:00 Maggie Dodge
               Re:Re:04/05/22 20:10:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:04/05/22 20:16:00 Russell Pearson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:04/05/22 20:19:00 Tom Pike

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