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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops
Posted by: Charlotte Kasner
Date/Time: 01/04/19 17:15:00

Ms Walsh, may I suggest that you actually read what I said in the post which was:

"The cycling demographics of the 14 centres studied were the same as nationally: white, affluent, middle aged males, none of whom relied on cycling as their main mode of travel, unlike a large proportion of bus users. "

Nowhere did I say that cyclists were "middle class". I don't think that it would be unreasonable to infer that from the study, but it is a term that would need to be defined for each study and isn't very useful other than colloquially as a short cut.

This is what the study actually says on pages 20 and 21:

"Cyclists were more likely to be male, White and working than other mode users. See Table 7."

If you compare this with the other statements in the study on demographics:

"Bus users were more likely to be retired and have lower household incomes than other mode users.
Car users were more likely to be older and have higher household incomes than other mode users.
Train and Tube users were more likely to be younger and non White than other mode users."

...I believe that, taking all those findings into consideration, the description that I used is not unreasonable.

By all means, feel free to disagree but, for the sake of the community on the forum, it would be better manners not to resort to personal abuse, especially if stems from being completely inaccurate.

Please do use the link to download the study and see for yourself. Also, look at the DoT figures here:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/syste/uploads/attachment_data/file/736909/walking-and-cycling-statistics-england-2017.pdf

Annoyingly, this document doesn't have page numbers but the index has hyperlinks.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Cyclists and support for local shops25/03/19 17:13:00 Charlotte Kasner
   Re:Cyclists and support for local shops25/03/19 18:52:00 Will Watson
      Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops25/03/19 19:18:00 Andy Pease
         Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops25/03/19 20:48:00 Chris Blackwell
      Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops26/03/19 11:52:00 Charlotte Kasner
         Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops26/03/19 12:20:00 Al Webber
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops26/03/19 16:37:00 Charlotte Kasner
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops27/03/19 07:20:00 Andy Pease
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops28/03/19 16:37:00 Richard Cathcart
         Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 12:47:00 Pip Walsh
   Re:Cyclists and support for local shops26/03/19 17:59:00 Tony Mansell
      Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops27/03/19 08:01:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops27/03/19 08:02:00 James Smith-Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops28/03/19 12:32:00 Tony Mansell
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 12:28:00 Francis Rowe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 12:50:00 Al Webber
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 14:05:00 Charlotte Kasner
   Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 12:46:00 Pip Walsh
      Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 12:58:00 Janice Evans
         Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 12:59:00 Pip Walsh
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 14:15:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 14:44:00 Andrew OSullivan
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 20:43:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 17:15:00 Charlotte Kasner
               Re: Pip Walsh, don't you think you owe Charlotte an apology...01/04/19 17:27:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 18:01:00 Pip Walsh
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops01/04/19 19:07:00 Loraine Pemberton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops02/04/19 09:39:00 Charlotte Kasner
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops02/04/19 09:48:00 Janice Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops02/04/19 13:48:00 Charlotte Kasner
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops02/04/19 13:53:00 Janice Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops02/04/19 14:01:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops02/04/19 14:07:00 Carl Wynne
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops02/04/19 14:10:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops02/04/19 13:18:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops02/04/19 21:07:00 Tony Smart
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops03/04/19 06:12:00 Andy Pease
                              Re:Cyclists and support for local shops03/04/19 06:35:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                 Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops03/04/19 10:07:00 Carl Wynne
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops03/04/19 09:52:00 Charlotte Kasner
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops03/04/19 10:16:00 Adam Beamish
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops03/04/19 10:31:00 Andy Pease
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops03/04/19 13:18:00 Steve Taylor
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cyclists and support for local shops03/04/19 13:37:00 Adam Beamish

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