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Topic: Eastern Europeans and Crime on Public Transport
Posted by: Francis Rowe
Date/Time: 02/11/15 15:13:00

I don't really have any confidence in any of your assertions about policing in the capital. If they were ever accurate they seems now to be woefully out of date.

You seem unable to make the very simple distinction between the undisputed fact that some eastern Europeans are involved in theft and your view that we should assume that if a theft takes place that it is likely to have been committed by an eastern European and that they are responsible for the dominant proportion of theft on our public transport system.

You aren't likely to ever change your opinion when presented with facts but for the benefit of others who use them to form opinions the level of theft on the tube network has fallen dramatically over the last four years when at the same time there has been a significant increase in the number of eastern Europeans in the capital particularly from Bulgaria and Rumania.

It does have to be conceded that Rumanians dominate ATM fraud but, as I understand it, this is because banks previously used software engineers from this country before making them redundant and moving their work to India. The country therefore had a surplus of unemployed people with expertise in bank security hence their predominance in this kind of crime.

There is no problem with identifying a particular ethnic group with a particular type of crime when their is evidence to confirm. There is a problem with making an unsupported assertion about the proportion of crime committed by a particular group with no evidence to support it.


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"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"30/10/15 18:57:00 Jill Merrett
   Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"30/10/15 19:43:00 Lynne Bruce
      Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"30/10/15 21:00:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"30/10/15 22:38:00 Andy Pease
            Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"30/10/15 22:44:00 Georgina Flint
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"30/10/15 22:47:00 Dan Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"30/10/15 23:37:00 Russell Pearson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 07:37:00 Andy Pease
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 08:28:00 Francis Rowe
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 09:49:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 10:05:00 Francis Rowe
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 10:26:00 Keith Iddon
                                    Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 10:33:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                 Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 10:32:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 11:12:00 Dan Evans
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 11:27:00 bobby osborne
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 11:33:00 Jim Lawes
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 11:35:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 11:28:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 11:41:00 Julian Pavey
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 13:44:00 Andy Pease
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 14:27:00 Georgina Flint
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 15:48:00 Andrew OSullivan
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 15:58:00 Georgina Flint
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 16:04:00 Brian Coyle
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 16:10:00 Georgina Flint
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 21:17:00 Richard Greenhough
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 21:25:00 Georgina Flint
   Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 11:55:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 12:30:00 Brian Coyle
         Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 14:06:00 Julian Pavey
   Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"31/10/15 20:38:00 Susan Kelly
      Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"01/11/15 12:35:00 Teresa Qureshi
         Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"01/11/15 12:46:00 John Connelly
            Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"01/11/15 17:35:00 Paul Corcoran
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"01/11/15 17:42:00 Keith Iddon
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"01/11/15 18:06:00 Keith Iddon
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 12:26:00 Francis Rowe
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 12:37:00 Keith Iddon
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 12:40:00 Carl Wynne
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 12:42:00 Keith Iddon
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 12:43:00 Carl Wynne
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 12:42:00 Andy Pease
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 12:50:00 Andy Pease
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 13:04:00 Andy Pease
                                 Eastern Europeans and Crime on Public Transport02/11/15 15:13:00 Francis Rowe
                                    Re:Eastern Europeans and Crime on Public Transport02/11/15 20:19:00 Andy Pease
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 15:32:00 Loraine Pemberton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 15:51:00 Dan Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 16:11:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 16:29:00 Dan Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 16:47:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 16:47:00 Carl Wynne
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 20:35:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"03/11/15 13:20:00 Carl Wynne
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:"£4000 stolen from elderly woman on bus"02/11/15 16:32:00 Joe Conneely
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