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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists
Posted by: Andrew OSullivan
Date/Time: 01/06/15 17:52:00

Previously they had to pay £30 per permit as opposed to the standard residents' charge which is £80ish now.

This doesn't seem to me to be a subsidy as they wouldn't necessarily be using the permit with the same regularity as residents. The permits are non-vehicle specific and don't seem to be overused. 

I can't understand the assumption that all of the staff and visitors to the Vihara are driving. Presumably like any organisation a significant proportion can and do take public transport but there will always be some that can't due perhaps to a lack of a viable option, the need to transport equipment or infirmity. It seems to me that 15 permits for what can sometimes be a very large congregation would represent a small proportion of staff and visitors.

There hasn't been the suggestion from anyone sensible that there has been misuse of the permits and, as others have observed, I've never heard a complaint from anyone who lives in the area about parking from the Vihara.

To classify them as a business is preposterous as they are a non-profit volunteer-run organisation. They obviously won't be able to afford £800 per permit particularly as that would be vehicle specific so would be too inflexible to be practical for them. To apply for a business permit you need to present a non-domestic rates bill from the Council which the Vihara won't be able to do.

If they don't buy business permits then the net revenue to the Council will fall by £450 a year just from the Vihara. The total loss of revenue is several thousand because of there are about 600 of these permits issued borough-wide.

Removing the permits doesn't raise any extra revenue (and if it was really about this why not just raise the permit charge) so it seems to have been done for ideological reasons i.e. a belief that the state shouldn't fund religious organisations.

The problem is that this isn't a centre exclusively used by Buddhists. For instance blood donation sessions are regularly held there. As a precaution many people would be driven by a friend and the Vihara could give out permits to all them to park.

This seems to be a measure that does no measurable good either in terms of extra revenue for the council or benefit for residents (even if you accept the rather dubious premise that the Vihara is not in any sense a resident). The potential harm is very apparent.

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Chiswick Buddhists31/05/15 20:37:00 Stewart Jones
   Re:Chiswick Buddhists31/05/15 20:41:00 Gordon McDonald
   Re:Chiswick Buddhists31/05/15 20:42:00 Nigel Brooks
      Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists31/05/15 23:59:00 Dan Evans
         Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 09:13:00 Loraine Pemberton
         Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 09:29:00 Nigel Brooks
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 09:58:00 Paul Pryce
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 10:01:00 Will Watson
   Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 10:08:00 Paula Gjesdal
      Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 10:19:00 Nigel Brooks
         Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 10:25:00 Paula Gjesdal
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 11:33:00 Nigel Brooks
   Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 15:19:00 Pat Smith
      Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 15:50:00 Will Watson
         Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 16:15:00 bobby osborne
         Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 16:35:00 Loraine Pemberton
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 16:43:00 Will Watson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 17:00:00 Loraine Pemberton
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 17:05:00 Will Watson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 17:10:00 Loraine Pemberton
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 17:15:00 Will Watson
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 17:24:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 17:47:00 Will Watson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 18:02:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 18:04:00 Will Watson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 18:17:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 18:33:00 Will Watson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 17:52:00 Andrew OSullivan
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 18:18:00 Loraine Pemberton
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 19:23:00 Georgina Flint
      Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 19:47:00 Nigel Brooks
         Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 19:55:00 Georgina Flint
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 20:31:00 Nigel Brooks
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 20:35:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 20:55:00 Nigel Brooks
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 21:13:00 Loraine Pemberton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 22:37:00 Carl Wynne
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists01/06/15 23:34:00 Loraine Pemberton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists02/06/15 00:00:00 Ben Gemmingen
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists02/06/15 09:25:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists02/06/15 09:32:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists02/06/15 02:28:00 Georgina Flint
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Buddhists02/06/15 10:25:00 Loraine Pemberton
   Paperless Parking Enforcement02/06/15 11:36:00 Francis Rowe
      Re:Paperless Parking Enforcement02/06/15 12:17:00 Nigel Brooks
      Re:Paperless Parking Enforcement02/06/15 12:18:00 Pat Smith

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