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Topic: Intersex/Trans
Posted by: David Turner
Date/Time: 26/04/25 17:19:00

Being Intersex and Trans are different things and should not be conflated. And no being intersex does NOT mean they can F themselves.
Biological sex in science is I believe determined by chromosomes not outward appearance of genitalia.
A much higher proportion of people are now thought to have some kind of intersex condition than previously stated, up to 1.7% according to some studies though that is disputed. Interestingly the market in DNA testing has led to more diagnosis of intersex as eg people who thought they were male (they have a penis, are male on their birth certificate and  have been raised as a boy) discover they have XX chromosomes which means they are actually female. In the past many of these people led quiet often quite solitary lives knowing something wasnt right but not realising they were intersex.
So the simple binary distinction between male and female connected to genitalia that most of us grew up with is an oversimplification. Of course a big majority of people fit into this distinction but not everyone. The answer to the question what is a woman may not be what people think it is eg having a vagina does not always equate with being a woman though the birth certificate may say girl.
Perhaps people who are intersex are more likely to transition from the sex they were assigned at birth, I don’t know.
Re the ruling I agree that women’s spaces should be protected and that trans women should not compete in womens sport. But overwhelmingly threats and attacks on  women come from heterosexual men not trans women.


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   Re:What Is A Woman ??16/04/25 15:48:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
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            Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??17/04/25 00:40:00 Denis I. Fox
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            Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??17/04/25 09:58:00 Janice Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??17/04/25 13:43:00 Vanessa Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??17/04/25 15:14:00 Janice Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??17/04/25 16:15:00 Richard Greenhough
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??17/04/25 16:37:00 Janice Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??17/04/25 16:44:00 Janice Evans
                            removing the manhood17/04/25 17:31:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                              Gays Against Groomers Speak Out17/04/25 17:44:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                                 Re:Gays Against Groomers Speak Out17/04/25 18:08:00 Robert Fish
                              Re: removing the manhood17/04/25 17:46:00 Janice Evans
                                  Protecting The Weak17/04/25 17:50:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                                     Gays Against Groomers17/04/25 17:54:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                                       Re: Gays Against Groomers17/04/25 18:00:00 Janice Evans
                                          Re:Re: Gays Against Groomers17/04/25 19:17:00 Claire Moran
                                             w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out17/04/25 19:41:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                                                Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out18/04/25 10:55:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                   Re:Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out18/04/25 15:49:00 Robert Fish
                                                      JK Rowling18/04/25 16:38:00 Chris Blackwell
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                                                      Re:Re:Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out18/04/25 16:48:00 Steve Taylor
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out18/04/25 17:19:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out18/04/25 18:16:00 Andrew Jones
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out18/04/25 20:25:00 Brian Coyle
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out18/04/25 21:21:00 Steve Taylor
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out18/04/25 21:45:00 Denis I. Fox
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out18/04/25 23:44:00 Jayne Thorburn
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out19/04/25 01:26:00 Andrew Jones
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                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out19/04/25 09:08:00 Janice Evans
                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:w4 resident and celebrity James Dreyfuss speaks out24/04/25 17:37:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
   Re:What Is A Woman ??24/04/25 19:25:00 Dave Mannisa
      Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??24/04/25 19:27:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
         Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??24/04/25 19:29:00 Dave Mannisa
            Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??24/04/25 19:38:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??24/04/25 20:36:00 Steve Taylor
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??24/04/25 20:51:00 Andrew Jones
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??24/04/25 21:36:00 Dave Mannisa
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??24/04/25 21:41:00 Dave Mannisa
      Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??24/04/25 20:44:00 Steve Taylor
         Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??24/04/25 21:38:00 Dave Mannisa
            Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??25/04/25 12:59:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                Tavistock clinic25/04/25 13:07:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                  Re: Tavistock clinic25/04/25 13:08:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
            Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??25/04/25 18:16:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??25/04/25 18:35:00 Andrew Jones
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??25/04/25 20:23:00 Steve Taylor
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??25/04/25 22:33:00 Andrew Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??26/04/25 09:38:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??26/04/25 12:36:00 Andrew Jones
                               Tavistock Clinic26/04/25 14:50:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                                 Intersex/Trans26/04/25 17:19:00 David Turner
                                    Re:Intersex/Trans26/04/25 18:01:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:Intersex/Trans26/04/25 20:26:00 Janice Evans
                                 Re: Tavistock Clinic26/04/25 18:05:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:Re: Tavistock Clinic26/04/25 18:36:00 Keith Iddon
                                    Re:Re: Tavistock Clinic27/04/25 13:27:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??27/04/25 15:03:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??27/04/25 15:27:00 Andrew Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:What Is A Woman ??27/04/25 21:21:00 Steve Taylor
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                                         Tavistock clinic30/04/25 16:25:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                                          banned !!!01/05/25 14:41:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
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                                                Re:Reply01/05/25 16:19:00 Keith Iddon
                                                    transgender mice01/05/25 18:25:00 Anna Kirkpatrick
                                                      Re: transgender mice04/05/25 16:29:00 Davy Jones
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