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Topic: Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground
Posted by: Paul Campbell
Date/Time: 18/06/21 16:42:00

Who needs to research when the members of the small group are so eager to self-identify:

“Why should the rights of the mionority (sic) to have peace and quiet be put up against the rights of these businesses to make extra money?” Loraine Pemberton April 2012

Same old tactics - handful of residents object, set up a petition, lobby local Councillors (who are their friends), write to MP, kick up a fuss, make life as miserable as possible for a guy trying to run and grow his business. Rinse and repeat.

http://www.chiswickw4.com/default.asp?section=leisure&page=consams008.htm

Locals Say No To Sam's Al Fresco Plans

Some claim pedestrianising Barley Mow would lead to more noise

A group of residents living near the Barley Mow Passage have opposed the plan to pedestrianise the area, claiming they are in a ‘David versus Goliath’ battle to save their peace and quiet.

Sam Harrison of well-known restaurant ‘Sam’s Brasserie and Bar’ set up a petition on Hounslow Council’s website claiming pedestrianising the area would bring a 'continental atmosphere' and would benefit local business. The petition has almost 300 signatures.

But local resident Loraine Pemberton said this would lead to increased noise for nearby residents, and they have now set up a counter petition.

She said she did not believe Sam’s claims that in the recession, it would be good for business.

“Why should the rights of the mionority to have peace and quiet be put up against the rights of these businesses to make extra money?”

Her neighbour Sally Shimmin said she wondered how emergency fire and ambulance vehicles were meant to access such properties as Voysey House and Barley Mow Business Centre if there were tables outside on the street.

“They can't reach them via the two small roads that run to and from the passage that his diners will block with outside tables."

The two residents, who claim they have the support of several others who live in flats along the High Road, also said it would be difficult to get access to their homes with vehicles.

“We will be able to access but not exit as it's illegal to reverse onto a main road which would be our only option.” Says Loraine Pemberton.

"We have no objection for businesses to aspire and grow, as long as it’s not at the expense of residents who have been in occupation for far longer that Sam's and Chisou and already suffer from increased noise pollution."

The residents have put their concerns into a letter sent to local MP Mary Macleod and plan to lobby councillors on the issue. The cost of pedestrianisation would be £4,000 and the decision would be made by Hounslow Council.

The newly-opened Japanese restaurant Chisou is also supporting the idea, although the Barley Mow pub has not expressed an interest.

According to Sam Harrison, other local businesses on the High Road would also benefit as this proposal would draw people to what is often consider the quietest "trading "part of the High Road.

In a letter sent to local residents earlier this month, he said he fully understood their concerns and would be willing to finish outside dining at 10.30pm or earlier and if necessary, he could restrict it to Saturday and Sundays.

He said the outside dining would be for a limited number of diners only.

“I really believe that there is a way that this proposal can work with little disruption to local residents, mainly because at the times I am suggesting, the noise would be no greater than already being created.”

However the local residents opposing the campaign do not believe him. Another local, Sarah Markworth has replied saying;

“I do believe that you have good intentions, however the problem is this area acts like an amplifier to noise and so even the BEST intentions do not create a good result for the surrounding neighbours.

Most of the residents along this road sleep at the back of their properties to avoid the noise of the high street and therefore introducing noise along the back of these properties is going to produce a stream of complaints. We do not have an alternative place to sleep.”.

Sam Harrison

In a statement today, Sam Harrison said that he had agreed with Hounslow Council that if approved he would fund the whole scheme. The scheme had not been turned down in 2007 as it was never put forward as a scheme. All of the emergency services had given their full approval and support to the scheme already.

"They wouldn't have done this without having carried out a full risk assessment" he added.

April 27, 2012


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Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 16:47:00 Mary Oppe
   Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 17:09:00 Ken Munn
      Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 18:00:00 Anita Blake
         Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 18:03:00 Ken Munn
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 18:10:00 Jim Lawes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 18:15:00 Ed Saper
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 18:51:00 Anita Blake
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 19:29:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 19:33:00 Carl Wynne
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 22:26:00 Michael Adams
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 22:34:00 Stewart Jones
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 22:35:00 Stewart Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 22:52:00 Paul Campbell
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 00:29:00 Michael Adams
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 07:22:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 22:54:00 Ed Saper
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground17/06/21 22:56:00 Paul Campbell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 00:30:00 Felicity Caborn
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 07:06:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 16:26:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                       Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 16:42:00 Paul Campbell
                                          Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 17:31:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 17:44:00 Ken Munn
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 18:06:00 Paul Campbell
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 18:28:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 19:11:00 Paul Campbell
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 23:40:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 23:42:00 Paul Campbell
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground19/06/21 06:37:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground19/06/21 07:20:00 Paul Campbell
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground20/06/21 06:14:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 02:01:00 Andrew Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 06:35:00 Julian Pavey
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 07:30:00 Mark Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 07:56:00 Gordon McDonald
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 08:05:00 Mark Evans
                                          - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 08:15:00 Peter Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 08:39:00 Gordon McDonald
                                             Thank you Mary18/06/21 09:04:00 Diane Brown
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 08:26:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 08:52:00 Mark Evans
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 09:01:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 09:43:00 Mark Evans
                                                Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 10:06:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 10:18:00 Michael Robinson
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 10:58:00 Mark Evans
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 11:21:00 Michael Robinson
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 18:26:00 Paul Corcoran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground28/06/21 12:59:00 Margie Frew
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 09:04:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 10:10:00 Ken Munn
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 10:33:00 Loraine Pemberton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 11:25:00 Ken Munn
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 11:33:00 Loraine Pemberton
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Temporary Street Trading Application - Coffee van, Fisher's Lane by the playground18/06/21 12:13:00 Ken Munn
                              Reply18/06/21 12:31:00 John Hall
                                 Re:Reply18/06/21 13:41:00 Janice Evans
                                    Re:Re:Reply18/06/21 18:48:00 Julian Pavey
                                       Reply18/06/21 22:05:00 John Hall
                                          Re:Reply19/06/21 00:30:00 Julian Pavey
                                             Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 06:34:00 Adrian Irving
                                                Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 09:16:00 Janice Evans
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 10:37:00 Ken Munn
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 10:53:00 Adrian Irving
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 11:28:00 Ken Munn
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 11:43:00 Adrian Irving
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 11:58:00 Janice Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 12:26:00 Ed Saper
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 22:03:00 Ken Munn
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 22:05:00 Janice Evans
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 23:55:00 Ken Munn
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply19/06/21 23:57:00 Janice Evans
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply20/06/21 08:29:00 Ken Munn
                                             Reply19/06/21 08:13:00 John Hall
                                                Re:Reply28/06/21 14:40:00 Loraine Pemberton
                                                   Re:Re:Reply29/06/21 08:33:00 Francis Rowe
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Reply29/06/21 08:36:00 Loraine Pemberton

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