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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Drone strike
Posted by: Andrew OSullivan
Date/Time: 08/09/15 17:59:00

Joe, my geography is not the best but Pakistan and Afghanistan are surely not local to Syria. Those that despise American in this region probably do so because of their support for Israel rather than anything else although it is always wrong to generalise about people from this part of the world.

The drone that was used in this instance killed three people; the target, another UK national and a third ISIS fighter. Rather than leading people to despise the UK, the act will have been celebrated by Syrians, Turks, Kurds, Iraqis, Iranians, Israelis and Yazidis.

I can't accept Paul's parallel with shoot-to-kill in Northern Ireland and the Gibraltar executions. In this instance killing the Reyaad Khan was the only course of action that was available to the Government (other than passing on the opportunity to liquidate him). The point that parliament had not authorised strikes on Syria is not necessarily relevant as the House was in recess. It seems to me highly likely that they would have supported strikes against key targets in limited circumstances.

The legal position seems clear. The Government has an obligation to defend us and therefore can act overseas to fulfil this obligation.  Whatever information may subsequently come out about Reyaad Khan it is known that he was part of an organisation that was actively recruiting citizens of this country and was actively planning attacks on this country. To act in self defence under the law of this country you don't have to wait for the other person to strike you or shoot you, you can act pre-emptively if the situation justifies it. This applies at a state level as well as a personal level and there is no question whatsoever that Rayeed Khan would have been responsible for many murders in this country if circumstances had allowed him. That situation is no longer going to arise.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Drone strike08/09/15 12:03:00 Brian Coyle
   Re:Drone strike08/09/15 12:07:00 Loraine Pemberton
      Re:Re:Drone strike08/09/15 12:32:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
         Re:Re:Re:Drone strike08/09/15 12:36:00 Paul Corcoran
         Re:Re:Re:Drone strike08/09/15 12:43:00 Huw Burford-Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Drone strike08/09/15 13:07:00 Colin Jordan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Drone strike08/09/15 13:58:00 Paul Corcoran
   Re:Drone strike08/09/15 13:06:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Drone strike08/09/15 14:11:00 Cllr Sam Hearn
         Re:Re:Re:Drone strike08/09/15 16:32:00 Joe Conneely
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Drone strike08/09/15 17:59:00 Andrew OSullivan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Drone strike09/09/15 09:40:00 Paul Corcoran
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Drone strike09/09/15 10:08:00 Jonathan Bingham
   Re:Drone strike08/09/15 19:14:00 Penelope Battrick

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