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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Severe delays on the Piccadilly Line
Posted by: Al Webber
Date/Time: 30/12/24 23:41:00

The problems are ongoing from a few weeks ago.  The weather was quite mild, followed by a big storm which brought almost all the leaves down in one go.  That made the rails very slippery, resulting in trains skidding and putting flat spots in the wheels.

Replacing the wheels is not a simple job like changing the wheel on a car.  The wheels are integral to the axle, so the whole body of the carriage has to be lifted with a crane so the bogie can be accessed.  Remember there are 6 carriages on each train and total of 24 axles.  Each axle and pair of wheels will weigh over half a tonne.  It's a lot of work.

To compound that, there won't be hundreds of spare axles with good wheels on hand.  There might be enough for a few trains, but if you have 15 out of service, you will be waiting for axles to go off and be refurbished, even if you had the capacity in the depot to do the replacements.

If you get a major incident with lots of trains getting wheel flats, it can take months to recover.  At the end of the very hot summer in 2003, the temperature dropped by about 10 degrees overnight.  The grease in the track lubricators, which had been set for the hot weather, got a lot thicker and built up on the rails.  There were a lot of incidents of C Stock trains on the Hammersmith and City / Circle line  skidding. One or two even skidded through platforms and couldn't stop.  Trains were still being cancelled 4 months (or more) later as a result of all the wheel flats from that.

They did go out and get some different grease after that incident where the viscosity was much more consistent at different temperatures.


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Severe delays on the Piccadilly Line12/12/24 19:47:00 Susan Kelly
   Re:Severe delays on the Piccadilly Line12/12/24 19:51:00 Steve Taylor
   Reply12/12/24 20:44:00 Angela Knight
      Re:Reply12/12/24 21:31:00 Julian Pavey
         Re:Re:Reply12/12/24 22:22:00 peter king
            Re:Re:Re:Reply13/12/24 07:25:00 Jeremy Parkinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply13/12/24 10:54:00 peter king
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply15/12/24 07:48:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply15/12/24 11:51:00 Philippa Bond
                        Reply16/12/24 09:13:00 Andrew OSullivan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply16/12/24 09:52:00 Julian Pavey
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply16/12/24 10:51:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:Severe delays on the Piccadilly Line19/12/24 22:30:00 peter king
      Re:Re:Severe delays on the Piccadilly Line30/12/24 11:16:00 Jeremy Parkinson
         Re:Re:Re:Severe delays on the Piccadilly Line30/12/24 23:41:00 Al Webber
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Severe delays on the Piccadilly Line31/12/24 10:05:00 Jeremy Parkinson
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Severe delays on the Piccadilly Line14/01/25 10:54:00 Paul Corcoran
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Severe delays on the Piccadilly Line14/01/25 11:56:00 David Burke
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Severe delays on the Piccadilly Line14/01/25 12:11:00 Courtney Gilbert
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Severe delays on the Piccadilly Line14/01/25 14:46:00 David Burke

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