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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road
Posted by: Adam Beamish
Date/Time: 20/08/15 14:55:00


I don't like to accuse anyone of lying, but I've cut and pasted the below from your earlier post :

"Actually, in 2013 9 townhouses were given approval - largely by a proper consultation between developer and community."

Now, as in previous post I pointed out that the 2013 approval you are referring to wasn't a planning application, it was what is known as a prior approval application relating to the proposed conversion of the existing office floorspace into 9 flats (ref. 01218/10/PA1).

Firstly, presumably you'll now concede therefore that your post claiming that approval was given for 9 town houses is entirely incorrect ?.

Now I can totally appreciate Joe Public might get muddled up about flats rather than townhouses, so I accept that was just an error (albeit a fairly fundamental one) but what I really take issue with is the claim that there was a proper consultation between the developer and the community.

That claim implies a direct, two way direct between developer and local residents akin to a public exhibition or such like.  As your post this afternoon concedes, what you actually meant was that in the normal statutory way you as neighbours were notified by the Council of the prior approval application and invited to make comments.  You surely accept a mandatory statutory consultation undertaken by the Council is entirely and fundamentally different to a pre-planinng submission public exhibition, like what took place on the 2014 6 unit scheme ?.

I also draw your attention back to my previous post which sets out the technical clarification between the differences between a prior approval application and a planning application, which also explained why any comments that were made by Joe Public on that prior approval application are effectively irrelevant (as prior approval applications can only be considered having regard to flood risk, contaminated land and transport matters).

So it is a statement of fact that there has never been a scheme for 9 townhouses on this site, nor that the 9 unit conversion scheme that was the subject of the prior approval application involved any consultation between developer and community whatsoever.

But you said differently, and the somewhat condescending tone of your posts to others and the fact you clearly have some knowledge of the history of the site made me doubt whether your incorrect statements were merely mistakes, or deliberate mistruths. 

Sorry if that offends, but it grates on me when people are so quick to call out developers for being greedy, unscrupulous and such like, and yet at the same time either don't properly check their facts first or deliberate mislead.

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Windmill Road15/08/15 10:58:00 Carl Wynne
   Re:Windmill Road15/08/15 11:16:00 Will Watson
      Re:Re:Windmill Road15/08/15 11:20:00 Loraine Pemberton
         Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road15/08/15 23:29:00 Peter Evans
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road16/08/15 10:50:00 Loraine Pemberton
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road16/08/15 11:17:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road16/08/15 15:57:00 Loraine Pemberton
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road16/08/15 16:15:00 Peter Evans
   Re:Windmill Road16/08/15 15:11:00 Peter Millman
      Re:Re:Windmill Road16/08/15 15:21:00 Richard Jennings
         Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road16/08/15 19:29:00 Dan Murphy
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road16/08/15 19:36:00 Carl Wynne
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road17/08/15 09:11:00 Adam Beamish
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 12:48:00 Scott Cargill
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 13:25:00 Adam Beamish
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 16:31:00 Peter Niklewicz
   Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 12:44:00 Scott Cargill
      Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 12:51:00 Loraine Pemberton
         Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 18:47:00 Scott Cargill
      Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 13:17:00 Richard Greenhough
         Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 13:35:00 Robert Fish
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 15:01:00 Peter Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 18:57:00 Scott Cargill
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 15:08:00 Tony Buchanan
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 19:01:00 Scott Cargill
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 16:05:00 Dave Jervis
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 16:32:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 19:03:00 Scott Cargill
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 16:35:00 Peter Niklewicz
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 18:01:00 Claire Moran
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 18:30:00 Carl Wynne
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 19:04:00 Scott Cargill
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 18:52:00 Scott Cargill
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 18:58:00 Carl Wynne
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 18:59:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 19:07:00 Scott Cargill
         Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 18:47:00 Scott Cargill
   Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 16:32:00 Sue Knight
      Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 17:41:00 Carl Wynne
         Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 17:46:00 Alison Neary
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 17:53:00 Sue Knight
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 17:58:00 Alison Neary
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 18:01:00 Sue Knight
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 22:00:00 Adam Beamish
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road20/08/15 14:19:00 Sue Knight
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road20/08/15 14:55:00 Adam Beamish
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road20/08/15 14:59:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road20/08/15 15:27:00 Sue Knight
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road20/08/15 15:54:00 Adam Beamish
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 19:10:00 Scott Cargill
         Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 17:58:00 Sue Knight
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 18:24:00 Peter Millman
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 19:32:00 Gordon McDonald
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 19:35:00 Scott Cargill
         Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 19:09:00 Scott Cargill
      Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 19:08:00 Scott Cargill
         Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 19:44:00 Peter Millman
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 21:32:00 Adam Beamish
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 22:24:00 Peter Niklewicz
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road19/08/15 23:21:00 Mark Perry
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road20/08/15 13:57:00 Mark Talbot
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road20/08/15 14:57:00 Peter Evans
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road20/08/15 15:16:00 Richard Greenhough

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