| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | |
| Posted by: | Adam Beamish | |
| Date/Time: | 19/08/15 21:32:00 |
| I fear I'm going to regret posting again on this thread, but here goes... Firstly, the developers of the 6 town house scheme are not in any way linked to this apart-hotel scheme. Crest Nicholson were my clients/the developers for the town house scheme. The reason Crest didn't proceed with the town house scheme was because their board decided on a change of strategy in terms of the type of properties they were building. Regarding the office use of the building, regardless of whether the building is vacant or not (it certainly wasn't when I was getting permission for Crest) the site benefits from both a prior approval to be converted from office to flats and an extent planning permission for the town house redevelopment of the site. Thus the loss of the offices have already been accepted and either scheme represents the 'fallback' position, which carries significant weight in planning terms. In simple language, an objection based on the loss of offices is a complete waste of time. I have to take issue with one of Scott's posts (I haven't read them all) where he implies that the Crest Nicholson scheme was changed midway through the planning permission due to objections from residents. That is wholly untrue, some very slight revisions were made following the public exhibition we did prior to the submission of the application, but there were no further changes made during the determination of the application. I'm not a transport consultant, but as I always point out national government guidance is towards minimum car parking provision, particularly in town centres well served by public transport. I mentioned in a earlier post how national planning policy (the National Planning Policy Framework) encourages defined town centre uses, which include hotels and apart-hotels, to be located within highly accessible town centre locations, to reduce reliance on the private motor car etc. This site benefits from a high (5 on a scale of 1-6) level of access to public transport. The typical occupancy of serviced apartments is very different to your typical hotel, and the valid point any poster was making was that the traffic movements associated with the lawful use as offices with a 20 odd space car park is going to be 'heavier' than an 85 bed aparthotel scheme with no off-street parking. All things considered, I think anyone would struggle to make an objection on traffic and parking grounds stick as if the Council is minded to refuse on such grounds, it needs to be able to demonstrate that the impact would be 'severe' (paragraph 32 of the NPPF). Developers profit isn't a material planning consideration in the determination of applications like this. It is a material consideration when we're dealing with 20 houses and the developer is trying to argue that it shouldn't be required to pay an off-site financial contribution towards affordable housing, nor provide on-site affordable housing, on the basis that to do so would render the scheme not financially viable as the developer profit would be less than around 15%. None of those arguments apply to this scheme so forget about the developer profit arguments. Which leaves the subjective judgements about scale/bulk/massing, design, appearance etc. Personally speaking, I don't like the proposed building, in my view it's too much on the site and it looks like a prison, but that a personal view about subjective considerations, as I often say one mans hell is another's heaven, and ultimately it is those subjective issues which the scheme will ultimately be determined on in my view. My advice would therefore be to stick with those type of objections, and to avoid destroying the credibility of an otherwise well worded objection by going into 'rants' about greedy developers or such like, because that is when an other credible objector becomes a NIMBY. |
| Topic | Date Posted | Posted By |
| Windmill Road | 15/08/15 10:58:00 | Carl Wynne |
| Re:Windmill Road | 15/08/15 11:16:00 | Will Watson |
| Re:Re:Windmill Road | 15/08/15 11:20:00 | Loraine Pemberton |
| Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 15/08/15 23:29:00 | Peter Evans |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 16/08/15 10:50:00 | Loraine Pemberton |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 16/08/15 11:17:00 | Richard Greenhough |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 16/08/15 15:57:00 | Loraine Pemberton |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 16/08/15 16:15:00 | Peter Evans |
| Re:Windmill Road | 16/08/15 15:11:00 | Peter Millman |
| Re:Re:Windmill Road | 16/08/15 15:21:00 | Richard Jennings |
| Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 16/08/15 19:29:00 | Dan Murphy |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 16/08/15 19:36:00 | Carl Wynne |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 17/08/15 09:11:00 | Adam Beamish |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 12:48:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 13:25:00 | Adam Beamish |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 16:31:00 | Peter Niklewicz |
| Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 12:44:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 12:51:00 | Loraine Pemberton |
| Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 18:47:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 13:17:00 | Richard Greenhough |
| Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 13:35:00 | Robert Fish |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 15:01:00 | Peter Evans |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 18:57:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 15:08:00 | Tony Buchanan |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 19:01:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 16:05:00 | Dave Jervis |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 16:32:00 | Michael Robinson |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 19:03:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 16:35:00 | Peter Niklewicz |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 18:01:00 | Claire Moran |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 18:30:00 | Carl Wynne |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 19:04:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 18:52:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 18:58:00 | Carl Wynne |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 18:59:00 | Richard Greenhough |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 19:07:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 18:47:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 16:32:00 | Sue Knight |
| Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 17:41:00 | Carl Wynne |
| Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 17:46:00 | Alison Neary |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 17:53:00 | Sue Knight |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 17:58:00 | Alison Neary |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 18:01:00 | Sue Knight |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 22:00:00 | Adam Beamish |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 20/08/15 14:19:00 | Sue Knight |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 20/08/15 14:55:00 | Adam Beamish |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 20/08/15 14:59:00 | Richard Greenhough |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 20/08/15 15:27:00 | Sue Knight |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 20/08/15 15:54:00 | Adam Beamish |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 19:10:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 17:58:00 | Sue Knight |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 18:24:00 | Peter Millman |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 19:32:00 | Gordon McDonald |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 19:35:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 19:09:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 19:08:00 | Scott Cargill |
| Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 19:44:00 | Peter Millman |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 21:32:00 | Adam Beamish |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 22:24:00 | Peter Niklewicz |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 19/08/15 23:21:00 | Mark Perry |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 20/08/15 13:57:00 | Mark Talbot |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 20/08/15 14:57:00 | Peter Evans |
| Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Windmill Road | 20/08/15 15:16:00 | Richard Greenhough |