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Topic: Cargo bike use
Posted by: Justin Stephenson
Date/Time: 26/09/24 17:56:00

Local businesses deciding to have deliveries done by cargo bike is in principle a good thing.  Very much back to the future as the butchers lad delivering by bike was a common thing before mass ownership of cars and vans.

Obviously it is not appropriate for every business but the issue is whether this is being done for economic reasons - namely, that the existence of cycle lanes makes it quicker and safer - or because the creation of strict LTNs in key customer areas has effectively made it impossible to deliver any other way.  To put in simpler terms are businesses shifting because of the carrot or the stick.

The problem is that if the shift is solely because of the stick then for businesses whose products are not capable of being moved by cargo bike we may end up with areas of Chiswick for which deliveries of those type of product cease, of course based on comments in this forum in the past it may be that we already have such delivery deserts

For me the bigger problem with cargo bikes seems to be an excessive number of product recalls for safety reasons; Babboe did a product recall in March, Raleigh did the same (they share the same platform with Babboe), Vogue have done a product recall this month and apparently the Dutch authorities are currently looking at Cangoo and Bakfiels.  Hopefully this is just a temporary blip


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Cargo bike us up 73% in London26/09/24 09:24:00 Paul Campbell
   Re:Cargo bike us up 73% in London26/09/24 09:55:00 N V Brooks
      Re:Re:Cargo bike us up 73% in London26/09/24 10:24:00 Paul Campbell
      Re:Re:Cargo bike us up 73% in London26/09/24 12:02:00 Tom Pike
         Re:Re:Re:Cargo bike us up 73% in London26/09/24 12:06:00 Paul Campbell
   Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 10:06:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 10:22:00 N V Brooks
      Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 10:23:00 Paul Campbell
         Re:Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 10:26:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 10:34:00 Paul Campbell
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 10:39:00 Richard Greenhough
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 10:47:00 Paul Campbell
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 10:55:00 Richard Greenhough
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 11:09:00 Paul Campbell
                           Re:Humpty-speak26/09/24 11:34:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 11:51:00 David Burke
         Re:Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 11:54:00 Paul Campbell
            Re:Re:Re:Re: Humpty-speak 26/09/24 12:00:00 Steve Taylor
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Humpty-speak 26/09/24 14:10:00 N V Brooks
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 14:08:00 N V Brooks
         Re:Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 14:07:00 N V Brooks
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 14:14:00 Richard Greenhough
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cargo bikes'r'us ?26/09/24 14:29:00 N V Brooks
                  South Parade26/09/24 14:38:00 Anita Blake
                     Re:South Parade26/09/24 16:21:00 Paul Campbell
                        Re:Re:South Parade26/09/24 17:37:00 N V Brooks
                        Cargo bike use26/09/24 17:56:00 Justin Stephenson
                           Re:Cargo bike use26/09/24 18:10:00 Julian Pavey
                           Re:Cargo bike use26/09/24 20:44:00 Paul Campbell
                              Re:Re:Cargo bike use27/09/24 13:22:00 Justin Stephenson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Cargo bike use27/09/24 13:32:00 Paul Campbell
                     Re:South Parade26/09/24 18:11:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re: back in the day26/09/24 18:34:00 Adrian Irving
                           Chiswick Tractors26/09/24 19:29:00 Ed Saper
                              Re:Chiswick Tractors26/09/24 19:37:00 Russell Pearson
                                 Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors26/09/24 20:08:00 Paul Campbell
                                    Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors26/09/24 20:42:00 Brian Coyle
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors26/09/24 20:48:00 Paul Campbell
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors26/09/24 21:55:00 N V Brooks
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors26/09/24 22:38:00 Paul Campbell
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 00:00:00 Peter Evans
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 07:34:00 Robert Dawbarn
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 07:47:00 Paul Campbell
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 08:58:00 Robert Dawbarn
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 09:06:00 Paul Campbell
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 09:14:00 Robert Dawbarn
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 09:19:00 Paul Campbell
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 09:19:00 Robert Dawbarn
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                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 09:11:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 08:48:00 Tom Pike
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 10:48:00 N V Brooks
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 10:47:00 N V Brooks
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 05:59:00 Adrian Irving
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Chiswick Tractors27/09/24 07:05:00 Ed Saper
                                                Reply27/09/24 07:19:00 Paul Campbell
                                                   Re:Reply27/09/24 07:47:00 Ed Saper
                                                      Reply27/09/24 07:55:00 Paul Campbell
                                                         Re:Reply27/09/24 09:29:00 Adrian Irving
                                                            Re:Re:Reply27/09/24 09:34:00 Paul Campbell
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Reply27/09/24 10:06:00 Adrian Irving
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                                                                     Re:Humpty-speak27/09/24 10:44:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/09/24 14:07:00 Adrian Irving
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/09/24 17:47:00 Ed Saper
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                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply As promised30/09/24 11:35:00 Adrian Irving
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                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply As promised30/09/24 13:01:00 N V Brooks
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                                                                                 Re:Humpty-speak30/09/24 14:16:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                            Re:Re:Reply27/09/24 09:53:00 Tom Pike
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Reply27/09/24 10:13:00 Steve Taylor
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Reply27/09/24 10:18:00 Adrian Irving
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                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/09/24 10:56:00 N V Brooks
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                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply27/09/24 11:02:00 Julian Pavey
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                                                                           Re: Tractor Factor27/09/24 14:05:00 Russell Pearson
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                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply28/09/24 04:11:00 Robert Dawbarn
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply28/09/24 06:07:00 Adrian Irving
                                                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Reply28/09/24 08:09:00 Steve Taylor
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