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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!
Posted by: Tom Pike
Date/Time: 03/11/25 11:27:00

Francis is right that the proportion of vans has increased, on both the flyover and the rest of LBHF, but he's wrong to assume this is associated with an increase in overall traffic. It's quite the opposite, as the DfT traffic counts show.

As the proportion of vans on both the flyover and all of LBHF has risen, total vehicle counts have fallen: for LBHF, the proportion of vans has increased from 11 to 17% while traffic counts have fallen by 27%, and car counts by 35% ; for the flyover, van counts have increased from 9% to 16% while traffic counts have fallen by 31% and car counts by 37%. On current trends, every 1% increase in the portion of vans on the flyover means a 7% drop in overall traffic counts.

The idea that we need to increase road capacity to accommodate more vans doesn't reflect what is happening. Rather, an increase in vans is associated with a drop in total traffic. This likely reflects that delivery companies are better at organising their collective logistics to minimise the mileage for drop-offs compared to individual car drivers picking up the same.


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Hammersmith flyover tunnel!10/10/25 23:39:00 John Bird
   Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!11/10/25 00:06:00 Peter Evans
      Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!11/10/25 12:05:00 Adrian Irving
         Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!11/10/25 12:10:00 Paul James
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!11/10/25 12:12:00 Paul James
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!11/10/25 12:46:00 David Lesniak
   Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!11/10/25 12:54:00 Michael Robinson
      Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!11/10/25 15:49:00 Davy Jones
         Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!11/10/25 20:27:00 Michael Robinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!12/10/25 08:07:00 David Lesniak
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!12/10/25 09:06:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!12/10/25 10:07:00 Francis Rowe
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!12/10/25 10:40:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!12/10/25 19:31:00 Davy Jones
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!12/10/25 20:46:00 Paul James
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!12/10/25 21:12:00 John Bird
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 09:13:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 05:29:00 David Lesniak
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 09:05:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 09:13:00 Janice Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 09:15:00 Janice Evans
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 09:18:00 Paul James
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 09:16:00 Paul James
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 09:17:00 Janice Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 09:54:00 Francis Rowe
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 11:41:00 Paul James
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 12:44:00 David Lesniak
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 14:38:00 Paul James
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 14:45:00 Janice Evans
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 15:24:00 Paul James
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 16:02:00 Simon Hayes
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 16:49:00 Janice Evans
                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 10:39:00 David Lesniak
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 12:18:00 Paul James
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 12:44:00 David Lesniak
                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 12:45:00 Janice Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 13:24:00 Simon Hayes
                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 14:38:00 Janice Evans
                                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!15/10/25 12:58:00 Dominik Klimowski
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!13/10/25 12:00:00 Michael Robinson
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 09:30:00 Tom Pike
   Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 16:11:00 Dominik Klimowski
      Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 16:45:00 Keith Iddon
         Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!15/10/25 12:07:00 Dominik Klimowski
         Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 17:27:00 Simon Hayes
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 17:47:00 Andrew Jones
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!14/10/25 19:57:00 Simon Hayes
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!15/10/25 12:55:00 Dominik Klimowski
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!15/10/25 14:09:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!15/10/25 19:58:00 Dominik Klimowski
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!15/10/25 15:33:00 Simon Hayes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!15/10/25 15:58:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!15/10/25 17:09:00 Paul James
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!15/10/25 17:27:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!17/10/25 13:59:00 Dominik Klimowski
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!19/10/25 12:22:00 David Lesniak
   Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!16/10/25 12:01:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!16/10/25 13:32:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!19/10/25 10:36:00 Tom Pike
            Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!01/11/25 09:34:00 Francis Rowe
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!01/11/25 12:28:00 David Lesniak
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!01/11/25 16:04:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!01/11/25 20:26:00 Davy Jones
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!01/11/25 21:17:00 Adrian Irving
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!02/11/25 00:22:00 Andrew Jones
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!02/11/25 09:37:00 Michael Robinson
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!03/11/25 05:05:00 David Lesniak
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!02/11/25 07:57:00 David Lesniak
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!02/11/25 20:14:00 Tom Pike
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!02/11/25 23:05:00 Simon Hayes
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!03/11/25 11:27:00 Tom Pike
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!03/11/25 12:44:00 Janice Evans
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!03/11/25 12:50:00 Janice Evans
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!03/11/25 13:07:00 Simon Hayes
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!03/11/25 16:07:00 Tom Pike
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!03/11/25 16:20:00 Simon Hayes
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!03/11/25 23:00:00 Tom Pike
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 06:50:00 Simon Hayes
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 12:55:00 David Lesniak
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 13:51:00 Andrew Jones
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 13:44:00 Michael Robinson
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 14:12:00 Richard Greenhough
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 17:38:00 Michael Robinson
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 14:01:00 Tom Pike
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 14:16:00 Tom Pike
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 14:21:00 Adrian Irving
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 14:29:00 Simon Hayes
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 16:13:00 Adrian Irving
                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 16:01:00 Paul James
                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 16:08:00 Paul James
                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hammersmith flyover tunnel!04/11/25 17:53:00 Michael Robinson

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