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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today
Posted by: T P Howell
Date/Time: 27/06/16 21:15:00

It get's worse.

I have spent my day with investors, including industrial direct investors from overseas, all telling the same story: - they won't be investing into the UK now because i) no guaranteed of free access to the richest market in the world; and ii) the UK economy is only going in one direction - and not the right one.

All of this was totally obvious beforehand - inward investment has been on hold for over a year due to the uncertainty caused by the referendum promise. The UK Embassies and trade attaches knew this, and were politely and privately pointing out to Cameron and co the damage that the uncertainty was already doing to the UK, prior to the referendum.

Yes, British goods will be cheaper in overseas markets because of the decline in the pound (except of course the EU - by far our biggest market -  because the Euro will also decline).  It is just a pity that we won't have the investment needed to build the capacity to manufacture those goods and to re balance our economy.

80% of our economy is based on "invisibles" (services), where it is far easier to put up barriers (particularly non-tariff barriers) than it is against tangibles (such as the German cars and the French wine we keep hearing so much about, and why the rest of Europe "needs us so much" so will "have to give us a good deal").

Services depend on free movement of workers, free movement of capital, and right of establishment.  They are the difficult ones - free movement of goods is easy.

Xenophobia - no, sorry, racism (hatred, not just fear of foreigners) has been unleashed.  The last time I heard a racist joke in polite society before today was in 1991. 

Overnight, we have undone 25 years' social and economic progress in this country.

The usual Chiswick Forum pundits (notably absent from this thread (unusual in itself) with one exception) who speak so confidently from a viewpoint uncorrupted by knowledge will no throw the meaningless slogan at me that I am "talking this country down" (which is just as meaningless as "take back control").

Gove and Johnson now appear moribund with fear, and certainly not "in control", in the realisation of the deep wounds they have inflicted on this country's position and prospects by their dogma and hubris.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
State of play today27/06/16 16:15:00 Paul Morris
   Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:22:00 Penelope Crocker
      Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:32:00 Matteo Castagna
         Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:41:00 Penelope Crocker
            Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:48:00 Matteo Castagna
      Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:49:00 Anton Hirschowitz
   Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:23:00 Matteo Castagna
      Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:34:00 Paul Morris
         Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:39:00 Richard Greenhough
            Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:42:00 Matteo Castagna
            Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:46:00 Paul Morris
   Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:34:00 Richard Greenhough
      Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:36:00 Paul Morris
         Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:44:00 Matteo Castagna
            Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 16:58:00 Paul Morris
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 17:08:00 Penelope Crocker
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 17:11:00 Paul Morris
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 17:19:00 Michael Robinson
   Re:State of play today27/06/16 17:17:00 Matteo Castagna
      Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 17:21:00 Michael Robinson
         Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 17:25:00 Paul Morris
         Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 17:34:00 Matteo Castagna
            Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 19:28:00 Paul Morris
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 19:31:00 Paul Morris
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 19:46:00 Michael Robinson
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 20:06:00 Paul Wright
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 20:38:00 Matteo Castagna
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 20:42:00 Paul Wright
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 20:09:00 Paul Morris
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 20:12:00 Paul Wright
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 20:19:00 Peter Millman
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 20:33:00 Paul Morris
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 20:37:00 Matteo Castagna
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 20:40:00 Paul Morris
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 20:40:00 Matteo Castagna
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 21:15:00 T P Howell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 21:18:00 Paul Wright
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 21:21:00 Paul Morris
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 21:25:00 Paul Wright
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 21:27:00 Paul Morris
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today27/06/16 23:05:00 T P Howell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:State of play today28/06/16 00:39:00 Ken Munn

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