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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines
Posted by: Andrew Jones
Date/Time: 05/02/26 11:33:00

It was purpose built in the 1970s though. I presume that while it was an urban motorway originally, it was engineered such that it would have not been able to cope with 70 mph traffic without excessive wear and tear (to keep costs down).

The average kerb weight of a car has gone up by more than 50% since 1970.

The impulse on a joint is going to be proportional to the car weight, and the car speed.

So it wouldn't be unreasonable that a road that was designed to cope with 50mph traffic with joints in 1970 should have its speed limit lowered to 30mph, unless there has been a dramatic improvement in the "quality" of the joints.


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£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines29/01/26 17:00:00 Jeremy Parkinson
   Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines30/01/26 10:18:00 David Lesniak
      Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 11:30:00 Sarah Smith
         Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 12:13:00 Jeremy Parkinson
            Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 17:55:00 Sarah Smith
         Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 12:27:00 David Lesniak
            Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 15:19:00 Mike Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines01/02/26 07:26:00 David Lesniak
            Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 15:34:00 Steve Taylor
            Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 17:51:00 Sarah Smith
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 18:03:00 Simon Hayes
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 20:47:00 Mark Frost
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 21:26:00 Davy Jones
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 21:55:00 Mark Frost
                           Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines31/01/26 22:56:00 Philippa Bond
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines01/02/26 08:36:00 Sarah Smith
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines01/02/26 11:26:00 Simon Hayes
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines01/02/26 19:14:00 Steve Taylor
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines02/02/26 12:30:00 Andrew Jones
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines02/02/26 13:08:00 Steve Taylor
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines02/02/26 14:04:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 11:08:00 Philippa Bond
      Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines01/02/26 19:40:00 Paul James
         Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines02/02/26 11:52:00 David Lesniak
            Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines02/02/26 12:21:00 Janice Evans
               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines02/02/26 12:54:00 Andrew Jones
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 10:38:00 Janice Evans
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 10:46:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 10:49:00 Steve Taylor
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 10:51:00 Janice Evans
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 11:35:00 David Lesniak
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 11:39:00 Paul James
                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 11:36:00 Paul James
                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 13:29:00 Brian Green
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 14:13:00 Paul James
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 15:14:00 Philippa Bond
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 15:47:00 Jeremy Parkinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 18:27:00 Andrew Jones
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 21:18:00 Steve Taylor
                                       Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines03/02/26 22:47:00 Philippa Bond
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines04/02/26 11:25:00 David Lesniak
                                          5,000,000 cement mixers on the Westway04/02/26 13:38:00 Mike Smith
                                             Re:5,000,000 cement mixers on the Westway05/02/26 07:52:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines04/02/26 11:19:00 David Lesniak
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines04/02/26 13:48:00 Paul James
                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines04/02/26 11:16:00 David Lesniak
                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines04/02/26 17:07:00 Steve Taylor
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines05/02/26 09:33:00 Paul James
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines05/02/26 11:33:00 Andrew Jones
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines05/02/26 12:52:00 Michael Robinson
                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines05/02/26 13:37:00 David Lesniak
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines05/02/26 13:59:00 Janice Evans
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines05/02/26 14:02:00 Andrew Jones
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines07/02/26 11:00:00 David Lesniak
                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines05/02/26 14:02:00 Paul James
                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines05/02/26 16:48:00 Steve Taylor
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines06/02/26 11:52:00 David Lesniak
                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:£5,000,000 per annum more in traffic fines07/02/26 11:51:00 Philippa Bond
   Re:  Perhaps fines could also go towards Demand Responsive Transport (DRT)?06/02/26 16:06:00 Philippa Bond

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